• Free Practice Test & Review
How would you score if you took the GMAT

Available with Beat the GMAT members only code

• FREE GMAT Exam
Know how you'd score today for $0 Available with Beat the GMAT members only code • Get 300+ Practice Questions 25 Video lessons and 6 Webinars for FREE Available with Beat the GMAT members only code • 5 Day FREE Trial Study Smarter, Not Harder Available with Beat the GMAT members only code • 1 Hour Free BEAT THE GMAT EXCLUSIVE Available with Beat the GMAT members only code • Free Trial & Practice Exam BEAT THE GMAT EXCLUSIVE Available with Beat the GMAT members only code • Award-winning private GMAT tutoring Register now and save up to$200

Available with Beat the GMAT members only code

• Magoosh
Study with Magoosh GMAT prep

Available with Beat the GMAT members only code

• 5-Day Free Trial
5-day free, full-access trial TTP Quant

Available with Beat the GMAT members only code

• Free Veritas GMAT Class
Experience Lesson 1 Live Free

Available with Beat the GMAT members only code

Diabetes and its complications

This topic has 1 expert reply and 11 member replies
goelmohit2002 Legendary Member
Joined
24 Dec 2008
Posted:
1799 messages
Followed by:
2 members
36

Diabetes and its complications

Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:52 am
Hi All,

Following is OG-12, Q#5.

OA = "A". For kicking out C. OG says, "has the rank of" is unidiomatic. Can someone please tell why the same is unidiomatic.

==============================================
Diabetes, together with its serious complications, ranks as the nation's third leading cause of death, surpassed only by heart disease and cancer
(a) ranks as the nation's third leading cause of death, surpassed only
(b) rank as the nation's third leading cause of death, only surpassed
(c) has the rank of the nation's third leading cause of death, only surpassed
(d) are the nation's third leading causes of death, surpassed only
(e) have been ranked as the nation's third leading causes of death, only surpassed

kyabe Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts
Joined
17 Mar 2009
Posted:
82 messages
2
Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:34 am
I wont comment on OG's explanation (Since we are playing GMAT's game). But yes I can explain why C is wrong. C says that Diabetes has rank blah blah blah... How can diabetes have rank?? I dont think it can have any rank...

Does this makes sense??

goelmohit2002 Legendary Member
Joined
24 Dec 2008
Posted:
1799 messages
Followed by:
2 members
36
Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:44 am
kyabe wrote:
I wont comment on OG's explanation (Since we are playing GMAT's game). But yes I can explain why C is wrong. C says that Diabetes has rank blah blah blah... How can diabetes have rank?? I dont think it can have any rank...

Does this makes sense??
Thanks Kyabe !!!

do you mean to say that "has" over here means possession and not the present perfect tense ? If yes...then can you please tell how to decide when it is possession and when the same is present perfect ?

scoobydooby Legendary Member
Joined
27 Aug 2008
Posted:
1035 messages
Followed by:
1 members
104
Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:31 am
also, "ranks" is far more concise than "has the rank of " which is wordy and awkward.

another error in C: "only" should be placed next to the phrase it limits. "surpassed only by x and y" is better than "only surpassed by x and y".
"by x and y" is the limiting phrase as these are the only two diseases ranking ahead of diabetes.

goelmohit2002 Legendary Member
Joined
24 Dec 2008
Posted:
1799 messages
Followed by:
2 members
36
Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:44 pm
scoobydooby wrote:
also, "ranks" is far more concise than "has the rank of " which is wordy and awkward.
Hi Scooby,

Just one small query in order to avoid similar issues in future...is "has the rank of" awkward b'coz of following reason....

does "has" over here means possession and not the present perfect tense ? If yes...then can you please tell how to decide when it is possession and when the same is present perfect ?

GMAT/MBA Expert

Stacey Koprince GMAT Instructor
Joined
27 Dec 2006
Posted:
2228 messages
Followed by:
681 members
639
GMAT Score:
780
Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:35 am

One thing to know in general about idioms: there often aren't explainable rules for idioms. The explanation is "that's the way it is; memorize it." Annoying, but... that's the way it is.

The relevant part of choice C says:
Diabetes has the rank of the nation's third leading cause of death.

First, FYI, "has" is not present perfect here. It is simple present. Present perfect is constructed by using both "has / have" AND the past participle of another verb. Eg, She has eaten three peaches today. "Has eaten" is present perfect. In the sentence above, we don't have a second verb - just "has." So that's simple present.

Next, If something "has the rank of X" then the main noun following that "of" should be the actual rank. "She has the rank of expert." "The dog has the rank of 4."

What noun follows in this sentence? "Diabetes has the rank of... cause." Is "cause (of death)" a rank? No - the rank is 3. Diabetes has the rank of third in the list of leading causes of death. (Totally awkward sentence, but that would work. )

The correct answer avoids this problem by using a different structure: Diabetes ranks as X. Now, X can be the full descriptive phrase, the rank itself plus the broader description of that rank: eg, "the 4th best dog in the group."

_________________
Please note: I do not use the Private Messaging system! I will not see any PMs that you send to me!!

Stacey Koprince
GMAT Instructor
Director of Online Community
Manhattan GMAT

Contributor to Beat The GMAT!

Free Manhattan Prep online events - The first class of every online Manhattan Prep course is free. Classes start every week.
sudarshankumar Newbie | Next Rank: 10 Posts
Joined
25 Aug 2010
Posted:
1 messages
Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:59 am
I have one doubt....

I think "diabetes ranks as ...." is grammatically incorrect because diabetes doesn' rank anything but it is ranked .... tense should be passive.

among all the options even i went for A but ......

Salman Ghaffar Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts
Joined
16 Nov 2010
Posted:
55 messages
7
Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:47 am
Would you say "Rafael Nadal ranks as the top tennis player" or "Rafael Nadal has the rank of the top tennis player"?

You would generally use the first construction.

tomada Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Joined
25 Jan 2010
Posted:
406 messages
Followed by:
4 members
23
Test Date:
March 14, 2014
GMAT Score:
740
Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:48 pm
My confusion with this question involved only choices (A) and (B), because I wasn't sure if "Diabetes, together with.." should be interpreted as singular or plural.

_________________
I'm really old, but I'll never be too old to become more educated.

Salman Ghaffar Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts
Joined
16 Nov 2010
Posted:
55 messages
7
Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:53 pm
As a general rule, whenever you see the construction "X, along with Y,...." forget about Y and focus only on X. If X is singular, choose a singular verb; if X is plural, choose a plural verb.

tomada Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Joined
25 Jan 2010
Posted:
406 messages
Followed by:
4 members
23
Test Date:
March 14, 2014
GMAT Score:
740
Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:24 pm
Thank you, Salman. Can you think of any exceptions to that?

Salman Ghaffar wrote:
As a general rule, whenever you see the construction "X, along with Y,...." forget about Y and focus only on X. If X is singular, choose a singular verb; if X is plural, choose a plural verb.

_________________
I'm really old, but I'll never be too old to become more educated.

Salman Ghaffar Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts
Joined
16 Nov 2010
Posted:
55 messages
7
Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:28 pm
Nope. Works every time like a charm

tomada Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Joined
25 Jan 2010
Posted:
406 messages
Followed by:
4 members
23
Test Date:
March 14, 2014
GMAT Score:
740
Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:39 pm
That's awesome, thanks. Now, there are 3 things I can count on - death, taxes, and this construction

Salman Ghaffar wrote:
Nope. Works every time like a charm

_________________
I'm really old, but I'll never be too old to become more educated.

Top First Responders*

1 GMATGuruNY 71 first replies
2 Rich.C@EMPOWERgma... 48 first replies
3 Brent@GMATPrepNow 37 first replies
4 Jay@ManhattanReview 26 first replies
5 ErikaPrepScholar 10 first replies
* Only counts replies to topics started in last 30 days
See More Top Beat The GMAT Members

Most Active Experts

1 GMATGuruNY

The Princeton Review Teacher

129 posts
2 Rich.C@EMPOWERgma...

EMPOWERgmat

116 posts
3 Jeff@TargetTestPrep

Target Test Prep

106 posts
4 Max@Math Revolution

Math Revolution

92 posts
5 Scott@TargetTestPrep

Target Test Prep

92 posts
See More Top Beat The GMAT Experts