How many ways can you group 3 people from 4 sets of twins if no two people from the same set of twins can be chosen?
(A) 3
(B) 16
(C) 28
(D) 32
(E) 56
(A) 3
(B) 16
(C) 28
(D) 32
(E) 56
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Here's one approach.sakshis wrote:How many ways can you group 3 people from 4 sets of twins if no two people from the same set of twins can be chosen?
(A) 3
(B) 16
(C) 28
(D) 32
(E) 56
How did you come up with 4*6C1?smanstar wrote:Total no of ways of selecting 3 people from a group of 8 people = 8C3 ways = 56 ways
number of ways in which the two twins are from same group is 4 * 6C1 = 24 ways
so no of ways in which the two twins NOT from same group ( 56- 24) = 32 ways
Hi Brent,Brent@GMATPrepNow wrote:Here's one approach.sakshis wrote:How many ways can you group 3 people from 4 sets of twins if no two people from the same set of twins can be chosen?
(A) 3
(B) 16
(C) 28
(D) 32
(E) 56
Take the task of selecting the 3 people and break it into stages.
Stage 1: Select the 3 sets of twins from which we will select 1 sibling each.
There are 4 sets of twins, and we must select 3 of them. Since the order in which we select the 3 pairs does not matter, this stage can be accomplished in 4C3 ways (4 ways)
Stage 2: Take one of the 3 selected sets of twins and choose 1 person to be in the group.
There are 2 siblings to choose from, so this stage can be accomplished in 2 ways.
Stage 3: Take one of the 3 selected sets of twins and choose 1 person to be in the group.
There are 2 siblings to choose from, so this stage can be accomplished in 2 ways.
Stage 4: Take one of the 3 selected sets of twins and choose 1 person to be in the group.
There are 2 siblings to choose from, so this stage can be accomplished in 2 ways.
By the Fundamental Counting Principle (FCP) we can complete all 4 stages (and thus create a 3-person committee) in (4)(2)(2)(2) ways (= 32 ways)
Answer = D
Cheers,
Brent
Aside: For more information about the FCP, we have a free video on the subject: https://www.gmatprepnow.com/module/gmat-counting?id=775
If we select three people, and no two people can be from the same set of twins, then we can think of it from selecting 1 representative from 3 of the 4 twins.faraz_jeddah wrote: Hi Brent,
Can you give us a more detailed explanation? There are 4 sets of twins but you repeatedly say that we have to select from 3. I think I am missing something very basic in your explanation.
Gotcha!Brent@GMATPrepNow wrote:If we select three people, and no two people can be from the same set of twins, then we can think of it from selecting 1 representative from 3 of the 4 twins.faraz_jeddah wrote: Hi Brent,
Can you give us a more detailed explanation? There are 4 sets of twins but you repeatedly say that we have to select from 3. I think I am missing something very basic in your explanation.
So, stage one of my solution is to first identify the 3 sets of twins from which I will be selecting a representative from each.
For example, let's say the fours sets of twins are A, B, C and D
In stage 1 we select 3 of the sets.
So, let's say we select groups A, B and D
Now that stage 1 has been accomplished (in 4 ways), stage 2 is to take one of the groups (say group A) and select 1 representative.
There are two people in this group, so this can be accomplished in 2 ways.
Stage 3 is to take another group (say group B) and select 1 representative.
There are two people in this group, so this can be accomplished in 2 ways.
Stage 4 is to take the last group (group D) and select 1 representative.
There are two people in this group, so this can be accomplished in 2 ways.
I hope that helps.
Cheers,
Brent
Brent@GMATPrepNow wrote:If we select three people, and no two people can be from the same set of twins, then we can think of it from selecting 1 representative from 3 of the 4 twins.faraz_jeddah wrote: Hi Brent,
Can you give us a more detailed explanation? There are 4 sets of twins but you repeatedly say that we have to select from 3. I think I am missing something very basic in your explanation.
So, stage one of my solution is to first identify the 3 sets of twins from which I will be selecting a representative from each.
For example, let's say the fours sets of twins are A, B, C and D
In stage 1 we select 3 of the sets.
So, let's say we select groups A, B and D
Now that stage 1 has been accomplished (in 4 ways), stage 2 is to take one of the groups (say group A) and select 1 representative.
There are two people in this group, so this can be accomplished in 2 ways.
Stage 3 is to take another group (say group B) and select 1 representative.
There are two people in this group, so this can be accomplished in 2 ways.
Stage 4 is to take the last group (group D) and select 1 representative.
There are two people in this group, so this can be accomplished in 2 ways.
I hope that helps.
Cheers,
Brent
Sure thing.farsar wrote: Hi Brent,
Thank you for your explanation. Just a small question since I tried to answer it in another way. If I had to calculate the number of ways in which the two twins are from same group, how would I have gone about doing so?
Thanks
The portion in red is incorrect: it should be not 4C1 but 2C1.Scott@TargetTestPrep wrote:Let the twins be Aa, Bb, Cc, and Dd (where the uppercase letter denotes the older twin and the lowercase letter the younger twin).sakshis wrote:How many ways can you group 3 people from 4 sets of twins if no two people from the same set of twins can be chosen?
(A) 3
(B) 16
(C) 28
(D) 32
(E) 56
We see that we can group: 1) all 3 uppercase letters, 2) all 3 lowercase letters, 3) 2 uppercase and 1 lowercase letters and 4) 1 uppercase and 2 lowercase letters.
each of the last 2 options has 4C2 x 4C1
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