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Basic needs of a cat

by komal » Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:14 pm
The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely inexpensive: food, water, affection, and shelter, and occasional visits to the veterinarian.

(A) and occasional visits to the veterinarian
(B) with occasional veterinarian visits
(C) with occasional visits to the veterinarian
(D) yet occasionally visiting the veterinarian
(E) but some occasional visits to the veterinarian are needed

OA C source kaplan 800
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by thephoenix » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:06 pm
komal wrote:The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely inexpensive: food, water, affection, and shelter, and occasional visits to the veterinarian.

(A) and occasional visits to the veterinarian
(B) with occasional veterinarian visits
(C) with occasional visits to the veterinarian
(D) yet occasionally visiting the veterinarian
(E) but some occasional visits to the veterinarian are needed

OA C
D and E are out bcoz the s/c is not showing any contrast

Amng A,B And C C is correct over A bcoz occasional visits to the veterinarian is an additional information

c is correct over b bcoz B lacks a verb and hence incomplete

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by bhumika.k.shah » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:38 pm
A is wrong coz of and shelter and occasional
B is wrong coz short is not always sweet :)
C is correct
D is wrong coz of lack of parallelism . visiting aint matching,
E is wrong coz there aint any contradictory views

Hence C is correct

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by Stacey Koprince » Thu May 20, 2010 11:54 am
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by akhpad » Sun May 23, 2010 12:15 am
This problem is from KAPLAN 800 but now it is in Kaplan GMAT Advanced 2009-2010 Edition.

I can see that C is the best one.

Cat visits to the veterinarian and "occasional visits to the veterinarian" is not the food.

So, "occasional visits to the veterinarian" cannot be parallel to food. Correct me if any error.

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by concept » Sun May 23, 2010 4:08 am
I do not know if 'occasional visits to veterinarian' is a noun, but it is definitely a 'need' and hence can work here. Stacy/Someone plz explain what grammatical construct is that.

Actual problem with B is that it is ambiguous. It can either mean 'i visit veterinarian' or 'veterinarian vsists me'. Correct me if I am wrong.

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by Stacey Koprince » Wed May 26, 2010 7:24 am
Unfortunately, I can't respond to this one. A couple of years ago, Kaplan asked MGMAT not to discuss Kaplan questions online. I'd suggest asking one of the Kaplan teachers to address this one.
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by adi_800 » Wed May 26, 2010 9:45 am
Exactly similar problem is present in OG11..The one that ends with "with mean as a rarity"

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by pradeepkaushal9518 » Wed May 26, 2010 10:04 am
it means we should not disclose the source untill we get the answer

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by Stacey Koprince » Thu May 27, 2010 11:48 am
it means we should not disclose the source untill we get the answer
That wouldn't work either, at least not with me. :) I won't answer them unless the source is cited. (That's a legal issue - whenever we quote copyrighted work, we have to give credit to the author!)
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by gmat_perfect » Fri May 28, 2010 12:56 am
komal wrote:The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely inexpensive: food, water, affection, and shelter, and occasional visits to the veterinarian.

(A) and occasional visits to the veterinarian
(B) with occasional veterinarian visits
(C) with occasional visits to the veterinarian
(D) yet occasionally visiting the veterinarian
(E) but some occasional visits to the veterinarian are needed

OA C source kaplan 800

After colon, there is a series of X, Y, and Z.

We know a series will end in "comma plus and"

If we say "x, y, and z, and/yet/but m", it would violate the rule of a series.
We could say, "x, y, and z, and m, n, and p", but there is no such thing in this sentence.
=> We can eliminate A, D, and E.

Another shot:
I like X, Y, and Z, with M, where M should be a noun or noun phrase.
=> B uses a clause-"veterinarian visits". So, B is out.

Answer is C.

Experts,
please comment my reasoning.
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by concept » Fri May 28, 2010 8:22 am
its high time that some expert takes this up and answers.

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by A.Kiran » Fri May 28, 2010 10:54 am
why it is not A ?
why others are supporting C ?




The basic needs<of the .....> are simple and x:y,z,t,and L, and occasional visits <to the veterinarian>



Subject <...>verb objectvie, x,y,z,and t, and subject verb <...>

this cant be the pattern ??

if so it should be A.

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by elevinty » Fri May 28, 2010 11:29 am
I'll try to explain this becuase I had the same question before and it confused me.

A: can't be right because of "and" if you add AND, you are trying to parallel one item to another both in structure and in logic
the sentence says " the basic needs of the average cat are simple AND occasional visits to the veterinarian" both of these items are not on the same level and it doesn't make sense any way.

B: the only problem here is idiom = who in the world would say veterinarian visits.

C: about C, in parallelism and just in parallelism "with" is used to introduce an exception in a list and here the exception would be the visits to the veterinarian, which they are expensive and that would be an exception because all the other items are simple and inexpensive, the same logic applies to the similar question in the OG (with meat....)

in D and E: in my opinion "yet" and "but" are used to show contrast, but here there is no contrast, we are not trying to compare between two clauses and to show the difference between them, also when they are compared to C they are wrody and not as concise.

Note: for the last bit of my reasoning may be Stacey can comment on this and she would still not violate the rules.

Hope this helps.
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by Stacey Koprince » Mon May 31, 2010 12:30 pm
Note: for the last bit of my reasoning may be Stacey can comment on this and she would still not violet the rules.
I can comment in general, yes. "yet" and "but" do indicate contrasts. If the meaning of the sentence does not support such a contrast, then you can't use "yet" or "but."
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