Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orléans and she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.
(A) she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne
(B) persuaded Charles VII of France in claiming his throne
(C) persuading that the throne be claimed by Charles VII of France
(D) persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne
(E) persuading that Charles VII of France should claim the throne
I see a couple of meanings that make sense:
1. she turned the tide of English victories by liberating the city of Orleans, and then
2. she persuaded Charles the VII to claim his throne.
Or
1. she turned the tide of English victories by liberating the city of Orleans, and persuading Charles the VII to claim his throne.
How am I to choose between these two meanings? Please help!!
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hardik.jadeja
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The sentence is talking about two different activities of Joan of Arc.
Joan of Arc turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orléans
AND
She persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.
Now if you notice, both the sentences have a common subject, Joan of Arc. So the second "she" is redundant in the original sentence. A ruled out.
The structure is "Joan turned X and persuaded Y". We need to maintain parallelism here. Since first part of sentence is using the verb "turned", the second verb will have to be "persuaded". "persuading" is wrong. So C and E ruled out.
Between B and D. "Persuade X to do Y" is the correct idiom. So pick D.
Hope that helps...
Joan of Arc turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orléans
AND
She persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.
Now if you notice, both the sentences have a common subject, Joan of Arc. So the second "she" is redundant in the original sentence. A ruled out.
The structure is "Joan turned X and persuaded Y". We need to maintain parallelism here. Since first part of sentence is using the verb "turned", the second verb will have to be "persuaded". "persuading" is wrong. So C and E ruled out.
Between B and D. "Persuade X to do Y" is the correct idiom. So pick D.
Hope that helps...
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The first is the only viable option, second one does not make sense.
"She turned the tide of English victories by liberating the city of Orleans, and persuading Charles the VII to claim his throne."
This would indicate that she stemmed the English victories by persuading Charles VII to claim throne, there is nothing that relates the claiming of throne to stopping English victories. It doesn't make as much sense to say that part of how she stopped the English streak was by persuading Charles VII to claim his throne, and so it can't be "persuading."
"She turned the tide of English victories by liberating the city of Orleans, and persuading Charles the VII to claim his throne."
This would indicate that she stemmed the English victories by persuading Charles VII to claim throne, there is nothing that relates the claiming of throne to stopping English victories. It doesn't make as much sense to say that part of how she stopped the English streak was by persuading Charles VII to claim his throne, and so it can't be "persuading."
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Thanks Hardik.. Your solution makes perfect sense.. But I have a query here..
Regarding the order of events..
I see a couple of meanings that make sense:
1. she turned the tide of English victories by liberating the city of Orleans, and then
2. she persuaded Charles the VII to claim his throne.
she turned X and then Y
Or
1. she turned the tide of English victories by liberating the city of Orleans, and persuading Charles the VII to claim his throne.
she turned X BY Y AND Z
I hope you understand my question..
Regarding the order of events..
I see a couple of meanings that make sense:
1. she turned the tide of English victories by liberating the city of Orleans, and then
2. she persuaded Charles the VII to claim his throne.
she turned X and then Y
Or
1. she turned the tide of English victories by liberating the city of Orleans, and persuading Charles the VII to claim his throne.
she turned X BY Y AND Z
I hope you understand my question..
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kvcpk wrote:Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orléans and she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.
(A) she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne (The pronoun is unnecessary)
(B) persuaded Charles VII of France in claiming his throne
(C) persuading that the throne be claimed by Charles VII of France
(D) persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne
(E) persuading that Charles VII of France should claim the throne (right ans)
Lets read the sentence like:
JA, Turned the tide.......by liberating the city of Orleans and persuading that Charles VII of France should claim the throne
Turned the tide by following two actions
1. by liberating the city of Orléans
2. persuading that Charles VII of France should claim the throne
so the two verbs (liberating & persuading) should be parallel.
not the...turned and ....pursuaded (as in option A, B, D)
experts comments..pls.
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I think you are confused whether the sentence is referring to two different activities("turned the tide of English victories" and "persuaded Charles VII") of Joan of Arc or one activity ("turned the tide of English victories"), which she performed by doing two things("liberating the city of Orleans" and "persuading Charles the VII to claim his throne")kvcpk wrote:Thanks Hardik.. Your solution makes perfect sense.. But I have a query here..
Regarding the order of events..
I see a couple of meanings that make sense:
1. she turned the tide of English victories by liberating the city of Orleans, and then
2. she persuaded Charles the VII to claim his throne.
she turned X and then Y
Or
1. she turned the tide of English victories by liberating the city of Orleans, and persuading Charles the VII to claim his throne.
she turned X BY Y AND Z
I hope you understand my question..
I believe in your second sentence you mean,
she turned the tide of English victories by doing two things
1) liberating the city of Orleans
2) persuading Charles the VII to claim his throne.
If i am correct about your doubt then here's what I think..
The original sentence is using two separate clauses
1) Joan of Arc turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orléans
2) she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne
So it means that the original sentence is referring to two different activities of Joan of Arc.
brijesh wrote:I wonder whether E is correct choice.kvcpk wrote:Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orléans and she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.
(A) she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne (The pronoun is unnecessary)
(B) persuaded Charles VII of France in claiming his throne
(C) persuading that the throne be claimed by Charles VII of France
(D) persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne
(E) persuading that Charles VII of France should claim the throne (right ans)
Lets read the sentence like:
JA, Turned the tide.......by liberating the city of Orleans and persuading that Charles VII of France should claim the throne
Turned the tide by following two actions
1. by liberating the city of Orléans
2. persuading that Charles VII of France should claim the throne
so the two verbs (liberating & persuading) should be parallel.
not the...turned and ....pursuaded (as in option A, B, D)
experts comments..pls.
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You got exactly what I am speaking about..hardik.jadeja wrote: I think you are confused whether the sentence is referring to two different activities("turned the tide of English victories" and "persuaded Charles VII") of Joan of Arc or one activity ("turned the tide of English victories"), which she performed by doing two things("liberating the city of Orleans" and "persuading Charles the VII to claim his throne")
I believe in your second sentence you mean,
she turned the tide of English victories by doing two things
1) liberating the city of Orleans
2) persuading Charles the VII to claim his throne.
How can we know that there are two separate clauses in the question? I believe, If we look at the sentence from an other direction, the way I am interpreting also looks correct. Isnt it So?
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If the sentence is referring to one activity ("turned the tide of English victories"), which she performed by doing two things("liberating the city of Orleans" and "persuading Charles the VII to claim his throne"), then none of the answer choices are correct.kvcpk wrote:You got exactly what I am speaking about..hardik.jadeja wrote: I think you are confused whether the sentence is referring to two different activities("turned the tide of English victories" and "persuaded Charles VII") of Joan of Arc or one activity ("turned the tide of English victories"), which she performed by doing two things("liberating the city of Orleans" and "persuading Charles the VII to claim his throne")
I believe in your second sentence you mean,
she turned the tide of English victories by doing two things
1) liberating the city of Orleans
2) persuading Charles the VII to claim his throne.
How can we know that there are two separate clauses in the question? I believe, If we look at the sentence from an other direction, the way I am interpreting also looks correct. Isnt it So?
The correct answer would have been
Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orléans and by persuading Charles VII of France to claim his throne.
Observe the "X and Y" parallelism..
Hope that helps
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Much easier just to deal with the idiom:kvcpk wrote:Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orléans and she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.
(A) she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne
(B) persuaded Charles VII of France in claiming his throne
(C) persuading that the throne be claimed by Charles VII of France
(D) persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne
(E) persuading that Charles VII of France should claim the throne
I see a couple of meanings that make sense:
1. she turned the tide of English victories by liberating the city of Orleans, and then
2. she persuaded Charles the VII to claim his throne.
Or
1. she turned the tide of English victories by liberating the city of Orleans, and persuading Charles the VII to claim his throne.
How am I to choose between these two meanings? Please help!!
You persuade someone to do something.
Eliminate all but A and D.
Only one difference between A and D: answer choice A includes the pronoun she, which is not needed.
The correct answer is D.
A word of advice:
Grammar trumps meaning. Look for grammatical errors first; then worry about meaning.
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I see a couple of meanings that make sense:
1. she turned the tide of English victories by liberating the city of Orleans, and then
2. she persuaded Charles the VII to claim his throne.
Or
1. she turned the tide of English victories by liberating the city of Orleans, and persuading Charles the VII to claim his throne.
How am I to choose between these two meanings? Please help!![/quote]
Much easier just to deal with the idiom:
You persuade someone to do something.
Eliminate all but A and D.
Only one difference between A and D: answer choice A includes the pronoun she, which is not needed.
The correct answer is D.
A word of advice:
Grammar trumps meaning. Look for grammatical errors first; then worry about meaning.
Thank you Mitch!
1. she turned the tide of English victories by liberating the city of Orleans, and then
2. she persuaded Charles the VII to claim his throne.
Or
1. she turned the tide of English victories by liberating the city of Orleans, and persuading Charles the VII to claim his throne.
How am I to choose between these two meanings? Please help!![/quote]
Much easier just to deal with the idiom:
You persuade someone to do something.
Eliminate all but A and D.
Only one difference between A and D: answer choice A includes the pronoun she, which is not needed.
The correct answer is D.
A word of advice:
Grammar trumps meaning. Look for grammatical errors first; then worry about meaning.
Thank you Mitch!
