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by rx_11 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:23 pm
Although various eighteenth- and nineteenth-century American poets had professed an interest in Native American poetry and had pretended to imitate Native American forms in their own works, until almost 1900, scholars and critics did not begin seriously to study traditional Native American poetry in native languages.

(A) until almost 1900, scholars and critics did not begin seriously to study
(B) until almost 1900 scholars and critics had not begun seriously studying
(C) not until almost 1900 were scholars and critics to begin seriously to study
D)it was not almost until 1900 when scholars and critics began to seriously study
E)it was not until almost 1900 that scholars and critics seriously began studying



Hello, everyone~

I am not very sure about this question. OA is E

I found C D seem to be correct for me. I have searched the previous posts and they say C D are wrong because of the "split indefinite". But I think there are other reasons because the "split indefinite" is not enough to rule out C & D. For example, in C "were to do" structure seems bad to me, and in D I think the "when" structure change the original meaning. However, I'm not quite sure about these.

Any experts can help me clarify that??
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by Salman Ghaffar » Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:51 am
I think you mean "Split infinitives", which are quite OK. For ref to these, check out https://www.oxforddictionaries.com/page/ ... infinitive

For me, shortening the sentence works fantastically. I would read this as:

Although various American poets had professed an interest in Native American poetry, until almost 1900, scholars and critics did not begin seriously to study traditional Native American poetry in native languages.

A) They didn't "begin seriously"????
B) Same issue as A
C) "were" is incorrect. You need the simple past tense here.
D) "almost until 1900" or "until almost 1900"????
E) Best option

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by e-GMAT » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:29 pm
Although various eighteenth- and nineteenth-century American poets had professed an interest in Native American poetry and had pretended to imitate Native American forms in their own works, until almost 1900, scholars and critics did not begin seriously to study traditional Native American poetry in native languages.

(A) until almost 1900, scholars and critics did not begin seriously to study
(B) until almost 1900 scholars and critics had not begun seriously studying
(C) not until almost 1900 were scholars and critics to begin seriously to study
(D) it was not almost until 1900 when scholars and critics began to seriously study
(E) it was not until almost 1900 that scholars and critics seriously began studying

Meaning Analysis:
The sentence states a contrast.
Fact 1 = Various 18th & 19th century poets showed interest in Native American poetry & pretended to imitate this form in their works.
Fact 2 = But still scholars and critics seriously began studying this topic (Native American poetry) after 1900.

Error Analysis:
1: Although various eighteenth- and nineteenth-century American poets had professed an interest in Native American poetry and had pretended to imitate Native American forms in their own works,until almost 1900,
2: scholars and critics did not begin seriously to study traditional Native American poetry in native languages.

Subject-Verb = No Error
Verb Tense = Correct sequencing: "had professed" & "had pretended" took place prior to "did not begin".
Modifier = until almost 1900. It appears that this modifier should modify the verb in clause 2, but its placement is such (separated by commas from both clauses) that it can modify clause 1 verbs as well. Thus, this sentence has modifier error.

POE:
(A) until almost 1900, scholars and critics did not begin seriously to study - Incorrect - Modifier Error
No Other choice has modifier error.

(B) until almost 1900 scholars and critics had not begun seriously studying - Incorrect - Modifier error corrected by removing the comma after 1900. Verb tense error - "had begun" should be "began" to show the intended verb sequencing.
(C) not until almost 1900 were scholars and critics to begin seriously to study - Incorrect - Awkward construction - scholars and critics were to begin...
(D) it was not almost until 1900 when scholars and critics began to seriously study - Incorrect - It is not clear what "almost" modifies. Per the intended meaning "almost" should modify 1900 implying "around 1900 - e.g it could be in 1899 or 1901". But placing "almost" before "until" no longer communicates the intended approximation of time period "around 1900".
(E) it was not until almost 1900 that scholars and critics seriously began studying - Correct.

Notice how we did not need to use the "split infinitives" to get to the correct answer. Wherever possible, we should stick to the basics of grammar and apply a structured methodology to solve questions. :)

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by rx_11 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:38 am
Hi, e-GMAT and Salman Ghaffar

Thanks very much for your great explanations!!
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by tanviet » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:49 am
Please, help.

the structure in E is new to me. I do not understand this structure. can someone give me more examples of this structure.

why B is correct? the main clause in B is similar to

" I had not studied gmat until 2000"

so, the main clause in B is correct.

when the main clause of B is placed next to the subordinate clause B is wrong. Why? why we can not use "had done" in both clauses in B?

pls, help

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by babuxavier » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:14 am
IMO E

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by iongmat » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:29 pm
e-GMAT wrote: (D) it was not almost until 1900 when scholars and critics began to seriously study - Incorrect - It is not clear what "almost" modifies. Per the intended meaning "almost" should modify 1900 implying "around 1900 - e.g it could be in 1899 or 1901". But placing "almost" before "until" no longer communicates the intended approximation of time period "around 1900".
Hi e-GMAT, could you please explain why intended meaning is not clear in this option?

I thought D uses split infinitive (to seriously study) and hence, is incorrect.

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by vietmoi999 » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:37 pm
I disgree with many of you. please, read the following and discuss.

it is possible to that:

though I had done A, I had not done B until 1900

two action in the past perfect happened before 1900, a past point of time. This is the reason why A and C are wrong because A and C use simple past.

the reason B is wrong is that there is no comma after "intil....1900"

the pattern is that
it is not untill 1900 that somebody did
sombody had not done ...until 1900
the first sentense use simple tense, the second perfect tense.

members, experts, please, confirm my thinking. Thank you.