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by challenger63 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:27 am
I correctly answered the question below, but it could be interesting for other members.

So heavy were the storm's rains and hailstones, and its gusts of gale-force wind were relentless, the city took nearly a decade to recover from the monumental hurricane that affected not just a region, but an entire nation.

(A) and its gusts of gale-force wind were relentless,
(B) and the gale-force wind gusts were relentless, so that
(C) its gusts of gale-force wind relentless, that
(D) the gale-force winds were gusting so relentlessly,
(E) so relentless its gusts of gale-force wind, that

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by The Iceman » Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:59 am
Both of the following idioms are correct:
so x that y
so x, so y that z

Option E correctly captures the intended meaning, using the latter construction.
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by hemant_rajput » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:13 am
i feel that something is wrong with option C

shouldn't it be like this, "its relentless gusts of gale-force wind , that"?
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by aman88 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:38 am
IMO E
Let us know the OA soon.

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by challenger63 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:19 pm
OA: E
challenger63 wrote:I correctly answered the question below, but it could be interesting for other members.

So heavy were the storm's rains and hailstones, and its gusts of gale-force wind were relentless, the city took nearly a decade to recover from the monumental hurricane that affected not just a region, but an entire nation.

(A) and its gusts of gale-force wind were relentless,
(B) and the gale-force wind gusts were relentless, so that
(C) its gusts of gale-force wind relentless, that
(D) the gale-force winds were gusting so relentlessly,
(E) so relentless its gusts of gale-force wind, that

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by tisrar02 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:31 pm
hemant_rajput wrote:i feel that something is wrong with option C

shouldn't it be like this, "its relentless gusts of gale-force wind , that"?
The correct idiom is So X, that Y

Interesting problem. I was struggling between C and E and ended up going with E but still was not fully content with my answer. Glad to know I was right though.
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by sana.noor » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:47 pm
i know the right idiom is So X that Y but i still i need an explanation for this question. its quite hard.
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by hemant_rajput » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:28 pm
challenger63 wrote:I correctly answered the question below, but it could be interesting for other members.

So heavy were the storm's rains and hailstones, and its gusts of gale-force wind were relentless, the city took nearly a decade to recover from the monumental hurricane that affected not just a region, but an entire nation.

(A) and its gusts of gale-force wind were relentless,
>>misplaced relentless; it should be like "and its relentless gusts of gale-force wind ". Also, "that" is missing from the sentence, which need to emphasize the next clause

(B) and the gale-force wind gusts were relentless, so that
>>wrong usage of "so that"; It makes next sentence very awkward and bizarre.

(C) its gusts of gale-force wind relentless, that
>> same as A.

(D) the gale-force winds were gusting so relentlessly,

>>passive construction. Also the tense is now present continuous.

(E) so relentless its gusts of gale-force wind, that

>> correct.

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by The Iceman » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:39 pm
This is a good one. I overlooked option C in haste. Actually it changes the intended meaning. I have edited my earlier post.

The correct answer should indeed be E. While the more popular version of the correct idiom is so x that y, there is another version of the idiom "so x, so y that z".

Option E correctly uses this construction.

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by Tommy Wallach » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:10 pm
Hey All,

A few weird things in people's explanations here, so I wanted to weigh in.
So heavy were the storm's rains and hailstones, and its gusts of gale-force wind were relentless, the city took nearly a decade to recover from the monumental hurricane that affected not just a region, but an entire nation.

(A) and its gusts of gale-force wind were relentless,
(B) and the gale-force wind gusts were relentless, so that
(C) its gusts of gale-force wind relentless, that
(D) the gale-force winds were gusting so relentlessly,
(E) so relentless its gusts of gale-force wind, that
(A) In this answer choice, we never get the "that" required by the idiom. Also, the underlined portion creates something like an independent clause, so it's basically a run-on sentence from there on.

(B) Again, we don't get the "that" required by the idiom, but "so that," which isn't correct.

(C) While this hints at being a legal absolute modifier, it doesn't parallel with the opening idiom very well (so X that Y). On a purely grammatical level, you could probably make a case for it, but it's nowhere near as good as E. [Iceman, this is my point on absolute modifiers...this could technically be considered correct! Icky!]

(D) Someone said there was a passive construction here, but there isn't. It's simply a past progressive tense. It's wrong because we're missing the "that" part of the idiom, and we also seem to have created a full independent clause by the end of the underline, making the sentence something of a run-on.

Good work everyone!

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by hemant_rajput » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:23 pm
Tommy Wallach wrote:Hey All,

A few weird things in people's explanations here, so I wanted to weigh in.
So heavy were the storm's rains and hailstones, and its gusts of gale-force wind were relentless, the city took nearly a decade to recover from the monumental hurricane that affected not just a region, but an entire nation.

(A) and its gusts of gale-force wind were relentless,
(B) and the gale-force wind gusts were relentless, so that
(C) its gusts of gale-force wind relentless, that
(D) the gale-force winds were gusting so relentlessly,
(E) so relentless its gusts of gale-force wind, that
(A) In this answer choice, we never get the "that" required by the idiom. Also, the underlined portion creates something like an independent clause, so it's basically a run-on sentence from there on.

(B) Again, we don't get the "that" required by the idiom, but "so that," which isn't correct.

(C) While this hints at being a legal absolute modifier, it doesn't parallel with the opening idiom very well (so X that Y). On a purely grammatical level, you could probably make a case for it, but it's nowhere near as good as E. [Iceman, this is my point on absolute modifiers...this could technically be considered correct! Icky!]

(D) Someone said there was a passive construction here, but there isn't. It's simply a past progressive tense. It's wrong because we're missing the "that" part of the idiom, and we also seem to have created a full independent clause by the end of the underline, making the sentence something of a run-on.

Good work everyone!

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Thanks for pointing out the mistakes. It is always good to have one's approach verified by Experts.
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by magpie16 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:29 am
Hi Tommy, Bumping old thread as I have a small question. Thought I could find the correct answer easily simply by looking into the parallelism criterion, I was wondering whether the correct idiomatic form is "so X, so Y, that" or "so X and so Y that". Please let me know.
I think it makes more sense to have the sentence as:
So heavy were the storm's rains and hailstones and so relentless its gusts of gale-force wind that the city took nearly a decade to recover from the monumental hurricane that affected not just a region, but an entire nation.
Otherwise, though I might be wrong, I feel that only the second part after second "so" is leading to the part after "that".
Tommy Wallach wrote:Hey All,

A few weird things in people's explanations here, so I wanted to weigh in.
So heavy were the storm's rains and hailstones, and its gusts of gale-force wind were relentless, the city took nearly a decade to recover from the monumental hurricane that affected not just a region, but an entire nation.

(A) and its gusts of gale-force wind were relentless,
(B) and the gale-force wind gusts were relentless, so that
(C) its gusts of gale-force wind relentless, that
(D) the gale-force winds were gusting so relentlessly,
(E) so relentless its gusts of gale-force wind, that
(A) In this answer choice, we never get the "that" required by the idiom. Also, the underlined portion creates something like an independent clause, so it's basically a run-on sentence from there on.

(B) Again, we don't get the "that" required by the idiom, but "so that," which isn't correct.

(C) While this hints at being a legal absolute modifier, it doesn't parallel with the opening idiom very well (so X that Y). On a purely grammatical level, you could probably make a case for it, but it's nowhere near as good as E. [Iceman, this is my point on absolute modifiers...this could technically be considered correct! Icky!]

(D) Someone said there was a passive construction here, but there isn't. It's simply a past progressive tense. It's wrong because we're missing the "that" part of the idiom, and we also seem to have created a full independent clause by the end of the underline, making the sentence something of a run-on.

Good work everyone!

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by oblivion2232 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:25 am
So heavy were the storm's rains and hailstones, its gusts of gale-force wind relentless, that the city took nearly a decade to recover from the monumental hurricane that affected not just a region, but an entire nation.

In the above sentence, why cannot the underlined part be considered as an modifier to Storm's rains & hailstorms. Please help me understand why C is wrong.[/u]