So the primes of 264600 are 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 7, 7
combinations that don't make 6 are (a) the 2s 5s 7s (b) 3s 5s 7s
(a) 2^3 * 5^2 * 7^2 = 36 combinations
(b) 3^3 * 5^2 * 7^2 = 36 combinations
so total is 72. This rules out A and B
But there are duplicates e.g. the combinations of 5^2 and 7^2 but I don't know how to remove them. So i know the answer is less than 72 and definitely not 9 or 36. So it is between 51 and 63... Intuituvely, 51 seems a little low coz that'd mean there were 21 duplicates so I'd guess the answer to be 63 but I am not sure.
You are right this is a tough one to do in 2 mins coz you have to prime factorize and then do combinations excluding 6 and then remove duplicates = three layers... definitely a question I think I'd solve up till I got to 72 but then I'd be stuck and have to guess...
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Solution in simple words:
if we factorize a number in prime factors in the form p^m*q^n*r^l..
the total number of factors this number can have can be given by (m+1)(n+1)(l+1)...
264600=2^3*3^3*5^2*7^2
now the divisor should not be divisible by 6. It is possible only when the divisor is NOT a multiple of 2 AND 3.
so all number with 2^3,5^2 and 7^2 AND all numbers formed with 3^3, 5^2 and 7^2 are the candidates.
Case 1: all number with 2^3,5^2: 4*3*3=36
case 2: 4*3*3=36
total 72.
point to consider
while counting the numbers, we counted the numbers formed with only 5^2 and 7^2 in both cases. total numbers possible with 5^2 and 7^2=3*3=9.
we need to subtract it from the result: 72-9= 63 answer
if we factorize a number in prime factors in the form p^m*q^n*r^l..
the total number of factors this number can have can be given by (m+1)(n+1)(l+1)...
264600=2^3*3^3*5^2*7^2
now the divisor should not be divisible by 6. It is possible only when the divisor is NOT a multiple of 2 AND 3.
so all number with 2^3,5^2 and 7^2 AND all numbers formed with 3^3, 5^2 and 7^2 are the candidates.
Case 1: all number with 2^3,5^2: 4*3*3=36
case 2: 4*3*3=36
total 72.
point to consider
while counting the numbers, we counted the numbers formed with only 5^2 and 7^2 in both cases. total numbers possible with 5^2 and 7^2=3*3=9.
we need to subtract it from the result: 72-9= 63 answer
The powers of two are bloody impolite!!
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another apporach.
total no of possible factors= 144.
total number that has 6 as common factor= 81
so total number of factor that doesn't have 6= 144-81 = 63
total no of possible factors= 144.
total number that has 6 as common factor= 81
so total number of factor that doesn't have 6= 144-81 = 63
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The question is asking about the factors of 264,600
We know from the divisibility rules that the factors are : 5^2X7^2X3^3X2^3
we want to find the factors which are not divisible by 6
There are 36 factors with out 2 , 12 with 2 and 5 , 12 with 2 and 7
and 3 factors of 2 (2,4and 8) so totally = 36+12+12+3 =63
We know from the divisibility rules that the factors are : 5^2X7^2X3^3X2^3
we want to find the factors which are not divisible by 6
There are 36 factors with out 2 , 12 with 2 and 5 , 12 with 2 and 7
and 3 factors of 2 (2,4and 8) so totally = 36+12+12+3 =63
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Can you explain how you got these numbers?sanjay_dce wrote:another apporach.
total no of possible factors= 144.
total number that has 6 as common factor= 81
so total number of factor that doesn't have 6= 144-81 = 63
Vinayak
Can someone please explain how you get 36 combinations from 2^3 * 5^2 * 7^2?zuleron wrote:So the primes of 264600 are 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 7, 7
combinations that don't make 6 are (a) the 2s 5s 7s (b) 3s 5s 7s
(a) 2^3 * 5^2 * 7^2 = 36 combinations
(b) 3^3 * 5^2 * 7^2 = 36 combinations
I do not get it .... thanks.
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There is a shortcut formula basically to calculate the number of integral factors for a given number,chipbmk wrote:Can someone please explain how you get 36 combinations from 2^3 * 5^2 * 7^2?zuleron wrote:So the primes of 264600 are 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 7, 7
combinations that don't make 6 are (a) the 2s 5s 7s (b) 3s 5s 7s
(a) 2^3 * 5^2 * 7^2 = 36 combinations
(b) 3^3 * 5^2 * 7^2 = 36 combinations
I do not get it .... thanks.
if a^p * b^q * c^r ... so on ==> then number of integral factors is (p+1)*(q+1)*(r+1)... so on
Here its,
2^3 * 5^2 * 7^2
take the powers alone and add 1,
(3+1) * (2+1) * (2+1) = 36 (This can also be named as combinations)
Same applies for (b) as well.
Hope this helps..!
That is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the explanation!papgust wrote:There is a shortcut formula basically to calculate the number of integral factors for a given number,chipbmk wrote:Can someone please explain how you get 36 combinations from 2^3 * 5^2 * 7^2?zuleron wrote:So the primes of 264600 are 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 7, 7
combinations that don't make 6 are (a) the 2s 5s 7s (b) 3s 5s 7s
(a) 2^3 * 5^2 * 7^2 = 36 combinations
(b) 3^3 * 5^2 * 7^2 = 36 combinations
I do not get it .... thanks.
if a^p * b^q * c^r ... so on ==> then number of integral factors is (p+1)*(q+1)*(r+1)... so on
Here its,
2^3 * 5^2 * 7^2
take the powers alone and add 1,
(3+1) * (2+1) * (2+1) = 36 (This can also be named as combinations)
Same applies for (b) as well.
Hope this helps..!
Your approach is very interesting and what I like very laconic, unfortunately i didnt understand how you get 81...sanjay_dce wrote:another apporach.
total no of possible factors= 144.
total number that has 6 as common factor= 81
so total number of factor that doesn't have 6= 144-81 = 63
the answer is 63
the first set : 5,7,2,2,2 this yields the following set of factors: 5c5+4c5+3c5+2c5+1c5= 6+ 25
the second set without 3 yields, 5,7,3,3,3, again this gives the following factors: 5c5+4c5+3c5+2c5+1c5=2+25
the total is 62 but don't forget 1 which makes 63 in total
the first set : 5,7,2,2,2 this yields the following set of factors: 5c5+4c5+3c5+2c5+1c5= 6+ 25
the second set without 3 yields, 5,7,3,3,3, again this gives the following factors: 5c5+4c5+3c5+2c5+1c5=2+25
the total is 62 but don't forget 1 which makes 63 in total
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This is a very good question involving fundamental concepts.
One way to solve the question is to find the no. of multiples of 6 from 264,600 and subtract it from the total no. of factors of the number.
The formula used for this is: if the prime factorization of the number is a^p * b^q * c^r
then the number of factors is given by: (p+1) * (q+1) * (r+1).
Note that they also include the factors a^0, b^0 and c^0.
To find the number of factors that are also multiples of 6, we would therefore need at least 1 two and 1 three to account for six.
So powers of 2: should be at least 1 or greater (exclude 2^0)
Similarly powers of 3: should be at least 1 or greater (exclude 3^0).
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For instance: suppose we want to find the factors of 18 that are also multiples of 6.
Prime Factorization of 18: 2^1 * 3^2
So total factors are: (1+1)*(2+1) = 6 (1,2,3,6,9,18)
We have to fetch the factors that are only multiples of 6.
1. Here we need to exclude 2^0 (because if we include 2^0 there will be at least one factor of 18 that's not a multiple of 6, since 2 is excluded from here)
The factors of 18 are: (2^0 2^1) (3^0 3^1 3^2)
: (2^0*3^0),(2^0*3^1),(2^0*3^2),(2^1*3^0),(2^1*3^1),(2^1*3^2)
: 1,3,9,2,6,18
2. For the same reason as above we need to exclude 3^0 too (because if we include 3^0 that will include at least factor that may not be a multiple of 6, since 3 is not there).
Now prime factorization of 264,600: 2^3 * 3^3 * 5^2 * 7^2
Here factors of 264,600 that are multiple of 6 = (3) (3) (2+1) (2+1) = 81
Subtract this from total # of factors: 144-81 = 63 (answer).
Thanks
Prashant
One way to solve the question is to find the no. of multiples of 6 from 264,600 and subtract it from the total no. of factors of the number.
The formula used for this is: if the prime factorization of the number is a^p * b^q * c^r
then the number of factors is given by: (p+1) * (q+1) * (r+1).
Note that they also include the factors a^0, b^0 and c^0.
To find the number of factors that are also multiples of 6, we would therefore need at least 1 two and 1 three to account for six.
So powers of 2: should be at least 1 or greater (exclude 2^0)
Similarly powers of 3: should be at least 1 or greater (exclude 3^0).
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For instance: suppose we want to find the factors of 18 that are also multiples of 6.
Prime Factorization of 18: 2^1 * 3^2
So total factors are: (1+1)*(2+1) = 6 (1,2,3,6,9,18)
We have to fetch the factors that are only multiples of 6.
1. Here we need to exclude 2^0 (because if we include 2^0 there will be at least one factor of 18 that's not a multiple of 6, since 2 is excluded from here)
The factors of 18 are: (2^0 2^1) (3^0 3^1 3^2)
: (2^0*3^0),(2^0*3^1),(2^0*3^2),(2^1*3^0),(2^1*3^1),(2^1*3^2)
: 1,3,9,2,6,18
2. For the same reason as above we need to exclude 3^0 too (because if we include 3^0 that will include at least factor that may not be a multiple of 6, since 3 is not there).
Now prime factorization of 264,600: 2^3 * 3^3 * 5^2 * 7^2
Here factors of 264,600 that are multiple of 6 = (3) (3) (2+1) (2+1) = 81
Subtract this from total # of factors: 144-81 = 63 (answer).
Thanks
Prashant
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Prashant - Did you realise that you bumped on to a very old thread
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