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problem with 'that' in 1000sc-114

by ayushiiitm » Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:58 pm
114. Ancient Romans found it therapeutic to bathe in cold milk, in strawberries that had been crushed, or in bathtubs filled with black caviar.
(A) to bathe in cold milk, in strawberries that had been crushed, or in bathtubs filled with black caviar
(B) that they bathe in cold milk, in strawberries that had been crushed, or in caviar that was black
(C) to bathe in cold milk, crushed strawberries, or black caviar
(D) that they bathe in cold milk, crushed strawberries, or black caviar
(E) to bathe in milk , strawberries, or caviar

Though I can make out that c is the best choice due to preciseness, I am having a doubt in concept

When do we use a infinitive form of verb and when do we use 'that'?

I know a bit: by definition 'that' is a relative pronoun so used to join subjunctive clauses. Is that the only use, or are there more uses of 'that' in situations such as given in above example

I am getting very curious.....please tell me.

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by tanviet » Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:15 am
the idiom is that

to find it good to do/that clause

why D is wrong.

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by ayushiiitm » Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:22 am
Even I am confused between C and D
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by gmat_Tutor » Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:25 am
114. Ancient Romans found it therapeutic to bathe in cold milk, in strawberries that had been crushed, or in bathtubs filled with black caviar.

(A) to bathe in cold milk, in strawberries that had been crushed, or in bathtubs filled with black caviar
=> In X, in Y, or in Z.

(B) that they bathe in cold milk, in strawberries that had been crushed, or in caviar that was black
=> Black caviar is preferable to "caviar that is black"

(C) to bathe in cold milk, crushed strawberries, or black caviar
=> In X, Y, or Z.

(D) that they bathe in cold milk, crushed strawberries, or black caviar

(E) to bathe in milk , strawberries, or caviar
=> Missing information.

Some thoughts:
We are between A and C.
1. GMAT prefers shorter.
"Strawberries that had been crushed" can be replaced by "crushed strawberries"
=> This rules out A.
So, C is the answer.

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by ayushiiitm » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:41 am
As far as I see D also is of the type X , Y or in Z

Please clarify
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by ayushiiitm » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:24 pm
Had not got answer to the query so thought to activate it again
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by naki009 » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:38 pm
I am not convinced with the answer. So, reopening the thread again.


Can anybody please explain why C is the correct answer ?

Option C says "to bathe in cold milk, crushed strawberries, or black caviar". I completely agree "in X,Y or Z" parallelism structure is correct here.
But "or black caviar" doesn't mean that "in bathtubs filled with black caviar" ?

Thanks for your answers...

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by missionGMAT007 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:47 am
ayushiiitm wrote:114. Ancient Romans found it therapeutic to bathe in cold milk, in strawberries that had been crushed, or in bathtubs filled with black caviar.
(A) to bathe in cold milk, in strawberries that had been crushed, or in bathtubs filled with black caviar
(B) that they bathe in cold milk, in strawberries that had been crushed, or in caviar that was black
(C) to bathe in cold milk, crushed strawberries, or black caviar
(D) that they bathe in cold milk, crushed strawberries, or black caviar
(E) to bathe in milk , strawberries, or caviar

Though I can make out that c is the best choice due to preciseness, I am having a doubt in concept

When do we use a infinitive form of verb and when do we use 'that'?

I know a bit: by definition 'that' is a relative pronoun so used to join subjunctive clauses. Is that the only use, or are there more uses of 'that' in situations such as given in above example

I am getting very curious.....please tell me.
IMO C
The correct parallel form is 'cold milk, crushed strawberries, or black caviar'

(A) to bathe in cold milk, in strawberries that had been crushed, or in bathtubs filled with black caviar - not parallel, it is not therapeutic to bath in bath tub but in black caviar. also it should be crushed strawberries.
(B) that they bathe in cold milk, in strawberries that had been crushed, or in caviar that was black- not parallel
(C) to bathe in cold milk, crushed strawberries, or black caviar - correct
(D) that they bathe in cold milk, crushed strawberries, or black caviar - unnecessarily wordy
(E) to bathe in milk , strawberries, or caviar - you can not bath in strawberries - change of meaning.

Hope this helps