THe problem is straightforward - but is there a shortcut?

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If the average (arithmetic mean) of x, y, and 20 is 10 greater than the average of x, y, 20, and 30, what is the average of x and y?

A. 40
B. 45
C. 60
D. 75
E. 95

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by rabab » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:24 am
I think the answer should be E.

It says

(x+y+20)/3- (x+y=30+20)/4 = 10
--> 4x+4y+80-3x-3y-150/12=10
--> x+y-70= 120
--> x+y = 190
Therefore, x+y/2 = 190/2 = 95.

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by beater » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:31 am
Perfect. OA - E. That is exactly how I approached the problem.

Wondering if there is a faster (less than 1.5 min) way to solve the problem

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beater wrote:If the average (arithmetic mean) of x, y, and 20 is 10 greater than the average of x, y, 20, and 30, what is the average of x and y?

A. 40
B. 45
C. 60
D. 75
E. 95
I'm curious why you'd look for a shortcut here if you find the problem straightforward? The algebra only takes three or four steps:

(x+y+20)/3 - 10 = (x+y+20+30)/4
4x + 4y + 80 - 120 = 3x + 3y + 150
x + y = 190
(x+y)/2 = 95

I did the problem a different way at first, but I'd recommend the algebraic approach above- guaranteed to work in under two minutes, and not too difficult to set up.

Still, you could also do the following, which takes a while to explain, but took about fifteen seconds to actually do:

-we know from the answer choices that x+y is equal to one of the following:

80
90
120
150
190

-Let S = sum of the first set, and T = sum of the second. We know S and T are integers, and that

S/3 - T/4 = 10

The only way this could be true is if S is divisible by 3 and T is divisible by 4 -- if S/3 is 1/3 or 2/3 greater than an integer, you'll never get an integer by subtracting T/4, that is, by subtracting some number of quarters. If that's not convincing, you can multiply by 12 on both sides and rearrange:

4S = 120 + 3T

and since the right side is divisible by 3, so must be the left side- i.e. so must be S, since 4 is not divisible by 3.

So you're looking for a value of x+y which makes x+y+20 divisible by 3, and E is the only option.

Still, this approach requires a bit of number theoretic analysis that I wouldn't expect everyone to see quickly, and since the algebra here is quite easy to work with, that seems a better approach to me.
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by nitin86 » Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:57 pm
I agree with Ian,

Under test conditions, other solution may not hit ....so well...

To find other shorter solution..i went this way....

I could make out that Average of X + Y + 20 should be divisible by 3..and for that to be true...

In answers, we are given ...Average of X and Y ,
hence total value of sum of X and Y is 2 * ( Averager of X and Y )

Now, 2 * ( one of answer choice ) + 20 should be divisible by 3

Only E is the answer choice that fits this...

as 2 * ( 95) + 20 is divisible by 3........

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by bhumika.k.shah » Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:14 am
I tried backsolving...
Used the answer options.... :D