Sentence Correction

Even though Clovis points, spear points with longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces, have
been found all over North America, they are named for the New Mexico site where they were first discovered
in 1932.

(A) Even though Clovis points, spear points with longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces, have been found all over North America, they are named for the New Mexico site where they were first discovered in 1932.

(8) Although named for the New Mexico site where first discovered in 1932, Clovis points are spear points of longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces and have been found allover North America.

(C) Named for the New Mexico site where they have been first discovered in 1932, Clovis points, spear points of longitudinal grooves chipped onto the faces, have been found all over North America.

(D) Spear points with longitudinal grooves that are chipped onto the faces, Clovis points, even though named for the New Mexico site where first discovered in 1932, but were found all over North America.

(E) While Clovis points are spear points whose faces have longitudinal grooves chipped into them, they have been found all over North America, and named for the New Mexico site where they have been first discovered in 1932

OA is A. Why is there no pronoun ambiguity in "spear points with longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces, " ????

Thanks Voodoo

voodoo_child wrote:Even though Clovis points, spear points with longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces, have
been found all over North America, they are named for the New Mexico site where they were first discovered
in 1932.

(A) Even though Clovis points, spear points with longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces, have been found all over North America, they are named for the New Mexico site where they were first discovered in 1932.

(8) Although named for the New Mexico site where first discovered in 1932, Clovis points are spear points of longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces and have been found allover North America.

(C) Named for the New Mexico site where they have been first discovered in 1932, Clovis points, spear points of longitudinal grooves chipped onto the faces, have been found all over North America.

(D) Spear points with longitudinal grooves that are chipped onto the faces, Clovis points, even though named for the New Mexico site where first discovered in 1932, but were found all over North America.

(E) While Clovis points are spear points whose faces have longitudinal grooves chipped into them, they have been found all over North America, and named for the New Mexico site where they have been first discovered in 1932

OA is A. Why is there no pronoun ambiguity in "spear points with longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces, " ????

Thanks Voodoo

Hi,

Op A


Even though Clovis points, spear points with longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces, have been found all over North America, they are named for the New Mexico site where they were first discovered in 1932.

Try to understand...

Even though....to...North America is a dependent clause containing a modifier(green) inside it.
they are named.....is the main clause or independent clause.

Now in Dependent clause, the green colored part within COMMAS is a modifier(Green). The subject of the main clause "THEY" can refer back to only the NOUNS in the red part. see modifier are not essential part of a sentence, they just describe something, but have no bearing on the sub and verb of the main or dependent clauses.

I know the antecedent for They. My question is about "their". Why doesn't it refer to spear points but clover points ?

not "Their" but "Themselves" is a correct way to refer to back to "spear points".

I hope I make sense.

Even though Clovis points, spear points with longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces, have been found all over North America, they are named for the New Mexico site where they were first discovered in 1932.

Let us have the skeleton of the sentence:

Even though Clovis points have been found all over North America, they are named for the New Mexico site where they were first discovered in 1932.

Structure of the sentence is :

Subordinate clause + COMMA + Independent Clause.

In the subordinate clause, the NOUN , "Clovis points" has been modified by "spear points with longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces".

--> This is actually case in apposition.

Let's have some examples:

I know Mr. Akon, a doctor working in his own chamber.

His refers to whom?

--> A doctor

A doctor refers to whom?

--> Mr. Akon

Finally "his" refers to Mr. Akon.

The same rule is applied in this sentence.

Even though Clovis points, spear points with longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces, have been found all over North America, they are named for the New Mexico site where they were first discovered in 1932.

Their refers to which?

--> spear points

Spear points refers to which?

--> Clovis points.

Finally their refers to which?

--> Clovis points.

Conclusion:

Their is not ambiguous.

Thanks.

WOW Perfect....

Good explanation

Thanks Makes sense.......

Glad it helped.

Thanks.

@ perfect,

I have some doubt now...i was checking the explanation of some question in Manhattan forum and i find a post of Ron stating the following concept.

This is an acceptable construction - pronoun coming before antecedent, when the pronoun is in an initial modifier and the antecedent is in the main clause.
this is NOT acceptable if the pronoun is in the main clause and the antecedent is in a modifier that follows.

examples:
Although he had studied for hours, Thom failed the test --> acceptable
He failed the test, although Thom had studied for hours --> incorrect

Now if we apply this same concept in this same option which we are discussing and though as a correct OP then you see...Antecedent is coming in the dependent clause and the pronoun is coming in the main clause???? so this Op is wrong...if i'm correctly relating the concept provided by Ron to this Op.

If you wanna check yourself: here is the link

https://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/tha ... t5839.html

In think we have already reached to the conclusion. Please read again. I think it will be clear to you.
Thanks/

atulmangal wrote:@ perfect,

I have some doubt now...i was checking the explanation of some question in Manhattan forum and i find a post of Ron stating the following concept.

This is an acceptable construction - pronoun coming before antecedent, when the pronoun is in an initial modifier and the antecedent is in the main clause.
this is NOT acceptable if the pronoun is in the main clause and the antecedent is in a modifier that follows.

examples:
Although he had studied for hours, Thom failed the test --> acceptable
He failed the test, although Thom had studied for hours --> incorrect

Now if we apply this same concept in this same option which we are discussing and though as a correct OP then you see...Antecedent is coming in the dependent clause and the pronoun is coming in the main clause???? so this Op is wrong...if i'm correctly relating the concept provided by Ron to this Op.

If you wanna check yourself: here is the link

https://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/tha ... t5839.html

atulmangal..."spear points with longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces" is a modifier and not a clause. it modifies clove points....their refers to spear points using rule of proximity.

I hope it helps.

@voodoo_child

I'm not talking about the modifier...let me make my point more clear, lets chop off that modifier then we have,

Even though Clovis points have been found all over North America, they are named for the New Mexico site where they were first discovered in 1932.

In red we have dependent clause and in green we have IC, now you can relate the Ron's point,

This is an acceptable construction - pronoun coming before antecedent, when the pronoun is in an initial modifier and the antecedent is in the main clause.
this is NOT acceptable if the pronoun is in the main clause and the antecedent is in a modifier that follows.

examples:
Although he had studied for hours, Thom failed the test --> acceptable
He failed the test, although Thom had studied for hours --> incorrect

According to this don't u think Op A is wrong...Now what you say????

I see..... I would agree with his post that.

Even though she worked hard, Margaret failed the test is wrong. It doesn't sound right to me.

But, Even though Margaret worked hard, she failed the test is OK for me. I have posted a question on mGMat. Let's see.

Thanks
Voodoo

voodoo_child wrote:I see..... I would agree with his post that.

Even though she worked hard, Margaret failed the test is wrong. It doesn't sound right to me.

But, Even though Margaret worked hard, she failed the test is OK for me. I have posted a question on mGMat. Let's see.

Thanks
Voodoo

I think u just said opposite to Ron's post...even though..dependent clause and should contain pronoun and next one is the main IC clause so should contain Margaret...means your second example is correct according to Ron...

By the way, what's the source of this question???

gmat_perfect wrote:In think we have already reached to the conclusion. Please read again. I think it will be clear to you.
Thanks/

M sorry but m still not getting...can you shed some light please???