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100 points for $49 worth of Veritas practice GMATs FREE VERITAS PRACTICE GMAT EXAMS Earn 10 Points Per Post Earn 10 Points Per Thanks Earn 10 Points Per Upvote SC-Help This topic has 8 expert replies and 36 member replies Goto page Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts Joined 04 Dec 2007 Posted: 157 messages Upvotes: 9 Test Date: Depends!!! Target GMAT Score: 740+ GMAT Score: 680 skr172 wrote: (D) sounds as if France gets 33% of energy from Germany's nuclear power Wierd right.. thats y it is wrong. nice one line explanation... thanks a lot. _________________ GMAT First take :- 680 Getting the guns ready for second shot !!! https://beatenbygmat.blogspot.com Legendary Member Joined 26 Aug 2008 Posted: 940 messages Followed by: 1 members Upvotes: 55 hi experts, 1. I want to know the exact reasons why options A, B, D and E are incorrect? I especially want to know how D, E change the meaning by shifting "in germany" and also want to confirm if C has shift of meaning from "produced" to "uses" 2. I wanted to know what are common things tested between this question and other one discussed in http://www.beatthegmat.com/soaring-television-costs-t21393.html ( In this question is "of" missing...for e.g. should it be "soaring costs accounted for more than half OF the spending in XYZ) thanks, Iamcste GMAT/MBA Expert GMAT Instructor Joined 03 Mar 2008 Posted: 3380 messages Followed by: 1503 members Upvotes: 2256 GMAT Score: 800 Quote: A) while in Germany it is just over 33% the pronoun "it" doesn't have a legitimate antecedent. here, "it" would have to stand for something like "the percentage/proportion/fraction of energy provided by nukes". there is no such noun in the sentence, so "it" is an orphan. Quote: B) compared to Germany, which uses just over 33% EVERYTHING here is wrong. "compared to germany" isn't a valid comparison, because it's not parallel to anything. france is tethered to the prepositional phrase "IN france", so it can't be compared to just "germany". also, the sentence doesn't say that france "uses" anything. finally, "uses" isn't used logically here. germany "uses" the nuclear energy, but it also "uses" the energy that isn't nuclear! Quote: C) whereas nuclear poweraccounts for just over 33% of the energy produced in Germany this sentence is correct. it doesn't use any particularly difficult or obscure constructions, so i think i can let it stand without explanation. if there's anything you don't understand about it, post back. Quote: D) whereas just over 33% of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany this sentence is written in a way whose meaning is at best ambiguous and at worst incorrect. one possible meaning, if not the meaning, is that 33% of "the energy" (we don't know where this energy is, or where it's used) comes from "nuclear power in germany". i.e., the power itself is in germany (whatever that means), but "the energy" is we-don't-know-where. Quote: E) compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33% first, false comparison: the earlier part doesn't mention "the energy from nuclear power in france", so this isn't parallel. (the earlier part mentions a percentage of ALL power in france.) second, and more obviously, the pronoun "it" doesn't have a legitimate antecedent, for essentially the same reason as in (a). _________________ Ron has been teaching various standardized tests for 20 years. -- Pueden hacerle preguntas a Ron en castellano Potete chiedere domande a Ron in italiano On peut poser des questions Ã Ron en franÃ§ais Voit esittÃ¤Ã¤ kysymyksiÃ¤ Ron:lle myÃ¶s suomeksi -- Quand on se sent bien dans un vÃªtement, tout peut arriver. Un bon vÃªtement, c'est un passeport pour le bonheur. Yves Saint-Laurent -- Learn more about ron Free Manhattan Prep online events - The first class of every online Manhattan Prep course is free. Classes start every week. Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts Joined 16 Mar 2010 Posted: 67 messages Upvotes: 3 [quote="lunarpower"] Quote: Quote: C) whereas nuclear poweraccounts for just over 33% of the energy produced in Germany this sentence is correct. it doesn't use any particularly difficult or obscure constructions, so i think i can let it stand without explanation. if there's anything you don't understand about it, post back. Hi Ron While I do understand why a,b,d, and e are wrong, I had a question about C. Doesn't the structure of this sentence violates the rule of parallelism: "over 75% of the energy....whereas nuclear power..." Thank you! " GMAT/MBA Expert GMAT Instructor Joined 03 Mar 2008 Posted: 3380 messages Followed by: 1503 members Upvotes: 2256 GMAT Score: 800 [quote="tnaim"] lunarpower wrote: Quote: Quote: C) whereas nuclear poweraccounts for just over 33% of the energy produced in Germany this sentence is correct. it doesn't use any particularly difficult or obscure constructions, so i think i can let it stand without explanation. if there's anything you don't understand about it, post back. Hi Ron While I do understand why a,b,d, and e are wrong, I had a question about C. Doesn't the structure of this sentence violates the rule of parallelism: "over 75% of the energy....whereas nuclear power..." Thank you! " no -- "whereas", like other subordinating conjunctions, connects two clauses that by themselves would be independent sentences. since the two items connected are so individually large, it would be an unreasonable burden to expect them to be written in completely parallel structures. so, in general, the takeaway you can get here is this: when a subordinating conjunction connects two complete clauses, those clauses don't have to be written in parallel form -- the only requirement is that each of them be a complete sentence on its own. -- by the way, this is an official problem. (i'm not sure whether it's marked as such on the thread, but i've seen it on the gmatprep software.) remember that you can't question the structure of correct answers in official problems -- if something appears in an officially correct answer, then it's correct, and you must learn it as such. _________________ Ron has been teaching various standardized tests for 20 years. -- Pueden hacerle preguntas a Ron en castellano Potete chiedere domande a Ron in italiano On peut poser des questions Ã Ron en franÃ§ais Voit esittÃ¤Ã¤ kysymyksiÃ¤ Ron:lle myÃ¶s suomeksi -- Quand on se sent bien dans un vÃªtement, tout peut arriver. Un bon vÃªtement, c'est un passeport pour le bonheur. Yves Saint-Laurent -- Learn more about ron Free Manhattan Prep online events - The first class of every online Manhattan Prep course is free. Classes start every week. Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts Joined 16 Mar 2010 Posted: 67 messages Upvotes: 3 THANK YOU Ron. I now understand why the sentence can still be correct without maintaining parallelism. I actually found this problem on the GMAT OG book, but could not understand why they chose this answer. I knew I must be making a wrong assumption or missing something out, and Your explanation helped me figure it out. GMAT/MBA Expert GMAT Instructor Joined 03 Mar 2008 Posted: 3380 messages Followed by: 1503 members Upvotes: 2256 GMAT Score: 800 tnaim wrote: THANK YOU Ron. I now understand why the sentence can still be correct without maintaining parallelism. I actually found this problem on the GMAT OG book, but could not understand why they chose this answer. I knew I must be making a wrong assumption or missing something out, and Your explanation helped me figure it out. :) ok. since you are thus aware of the fact that this is an official problem, make sure that you heed the warning above when you study such problems: NEVER question the correct answers to the official problems. in other words, the WRONG question to ask is this: "isn't that wrong?" the CORRECT question to ask is this: "why/how is that correct?" at first, the difference between these two questions might seem subtle or small, but the different attitudes espoused by each are radically disparate. the first question suggests an inevitably fruitless search for mistakes in sentences that GMAC has specifically indicated as correct, while the second evinces an understanding that whatever is officially correct must be regarded as correct (even though the officially correct answers are sometimes ugly enough to make me want to throw the book against the wall). _________________ Ron has been teaching various standardized tests for 20 years. -- Pueden hacerle preguntas a Ron en castellano Potete chiedere domande a Ron in italiano On peut poser des questions Ã Ron en franÃ§ais Voit esittÃ¤Ã¤ kysymyksiÃ¤ Ron:lle myÃ¶s suomeksi -- Quand on se sent bien dans un vÃªtement, tout peut arriver. Un bon vÃªtement, c'est un passeport pour le bonheur. Yves Saint-Laurent -- Learn more about ron Free Manhattan Prep online events - The first class of every online Manhattan Prep course is free. Classes start every week. GMAT/MBA Expert GMAT Instructor Joined 03 Mar 2008 Posted: 3380 messages Followed by: 1503 members Upvotes: 2256 GMAT Score: 800 also, in case it's not clear from the above post, this sort of absolute faith in the correctness of correct answers should be limited to OFFICIAL problems. if you're looking at a problem from a third-party source, feel free to approach with a critical viewpoint even those answers indicated as correct; the only sources to be regarded as absolute gospel are those published by GMAC itself. _________________ Ron has been teaching various standardized tests for 20 years. -- Pueden hacerle preguntas a Ron en castellano Potete chiedere domande a Ron in italiano On peut poser des questions Ã Ron en franÃ§ais Voit esittÃ¤Ã¤ kysymyksiÃ¤ Ron:lle myÃ¶s suomeksi -- Quand on se sent bien dans un vÃªtement, tout peut arriver. Un bon vÃªtement, c'est un passeport pour le bonheur. Yves Saint-Laurent -- Learn more about ron Free Manhattan Prep online events - The first class of every online Manhattan Prep course is free. Classes start every week. Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts Joined 16 Mar 2010 Posted: 67 messages Upvotes: 3 lunarpower wrote: tnaim wrote: THANK YOU Ron. I now understand why the sentence can still be correct without maintaining parallelism. I actually found this problem on the GMAT OG book, but could not understand why they chose this answer. I knew I must be making a wrong assumption or missing something out, and Your explanation helped me figure it out. ok. since you are thus aware of the fact that this is an official problem, make sure that you heed the warning above when you study such problems: NEVER question the correct answers to the official problems. in other words, the WRONG question to ask is this: "isn't that wrong?" the CORRECT question to ask is this: "why/how is that correct?" at first, the difference between these two questions might seem subtle or small, but the different attitudes espoused by each are radically disparate. the first question suggests an inevitably fruitless search for mistakes in sentences that GMAC has specifically indicated as correct, while the second evinces an understanding that whatever is officially correct must be regarded as correct (even though the officially correct answers are sometimes ugly enough to make me want to throw the book against the wall). Thank you for the advice!excellent point!!! the last line made me laugh!!since it describes exactly how I feel sometimes after I read the answer choices or discover what the right answer is. Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts Joined 29 Jan 2010 Posted: 64 messages Upvotes: 1 Hi, as per OG 12 option D The use of the definite article the makes it seem as though the energy being referred to in this part of the sentence is that of France. Can someone please explain this point a bit further. GMAT/MBA Expert GMAT Instructor Joined 03 Mar 2008 Posted: 3380 messages Followed by: 1503 members Upvotes: 2256 GMAT Score: 800 varundaga05 wrote: Hi, as per OG 12 option D The use of the definite article the makes it seem as though the energy being referred to in this part of the sentence is that of France. Can someone please explain this point a bit further. heh, ok, i can see why you had some trouble with this one. remember that the og people are not necessarily in the business of writing spectacularly good answers to their own problems (in fact, the quality of the explanations in the og is consistently and noticeably inferior to that of the questions themselves). let me explain by way of analogy. consider the following sentence: over 80% of the energy in almonds comes from fat; by contrast, less than 10% of the energy comes from protein. --> in this sentence, it should be pretty clear that "the energy"refers to "the energy in almonds". so far so good. now, for where the trouble comes in: over 80% of the energy in almonds comes from fat; less than 10% of the energy comes from protein in beef. this sentence is ambiguous in the same way as the one you posted, but, because you've been "primed" for the meaning of the preceding sentence, it should be easier for you to see the ambiguity. i.e., one interpretation of this sentence -- the interpretation in which "the energy" has the same significance as in the preceding sentence -- suggests that some percentage of the energy in almonds actually comes from beef! the problem that you posted has the same issue. _________________ Ron has been teaching various standardized tests for 20 years. -- Pueden hacerle preguntas a Ron en castellano Potete chiedere domande a Ron in italiano On peut poser des questions Ã Ron en franÃ§ais Voit esittÃ¤Ã¤ kysymyksiÃ¤ Ron:lle myÃ¶s suomeksi -- Quand on se sent bien dans un vÃªtement, tout peut arriver. Un bon vÃªtement, c'est un passeport pour le bonheur. Yves Saint-Laurent -- Learn more about ron Free Manhattan Prep online events - The first class of every online Manhattan Prep course is free. Classes start every week. Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts Joined 21 Mar 2010 Posted: 301 messages Upvotes: 4 [quote="lunarpower"] tnaim wrote: lunarpower wrote: Quote: Quote: C) whereas nuclear poweraccounts for just over 33% of the energy produced in Germany this sentence is correct. it doesn't use any particularly difficult or obscure constructions, so i think i can let it stand without explanation. if there's anything you don't understand about it, post back. Hi Ron While I do understand why a,b,d, and e are wrong, I had a question about C. Doesn't the structure of this sentence violates the rule of parallelism: "over 75% of the energy....whereas nuclear power..." Thank you! " no -- "whereas", like other subordinating conjunctions, connects two clauses that by themselves would be independent sentences. since the two items connected are so individually large, it would be an unreasonable burden to expect them to be written in completely parallel structures. so, in general, the takeaway you can get here is this: when a subordinating conjunction connects two complete clauses, those clauses don't have to be written in parallel form -- the only requirement is that each of them be a complete sentence on its own. -- by the way, this is an official problem. (i'm not sure whether it's marked as such on the thread, but i've seen it on the gmatprep software.) remember that you can't question the structure of correct answers in official problems -- if something appears in an officially correct answer, then it's correct, and you must learn it as such. hi Ron, as you mentioned 'when a subordinating conjunction connects two complete clauses, those clauses don't have to be written in parallel form ', option C should not have been regarded as a wrong option. Pl. suggest. It's a question posted in the forum and is an official problem. below is the link. http://www.beatthegmat.com/meteorites-strike-human-beings-buildings-t58623.html GMAT/MBA Expert GMAT Instructor Joined 03 Mar 2008 Posted: 3380 messages Followed by: 1503 members Upvotes: 2256 GMAT Score: 800 ansumania wrote: as you mentioned 'when a subordinating conjunction connects two complete clauses, those clauses don't have to be written in parallel form ', option C should not have been regarded as a wrong option. Pl. suggest. It's a question posted in the forum and is an official problem. below is the link. http://www.beatthegmat.com/meteorites-strike-human-beings-buildings-t58623.html hi -- i did say that, but please don't read more into that statement than what is actually written there. in particular, the statement just says that perfect parallelism is not NECESSARY in the case of long constructions such as complete clauses. in other words, you can't knock an answer choice out on the basis of trivial differences in structure between two entire clauses that are placed in parallel. however, you are not using what is perhaps the most important principle of evaluating parallelism: parallelism is a beauty contest: you should always pick choices that are more parallel over choices that are less parallel. in the problems cited, the correct answer exhibits essentially perfect parallelism, so you may feel free to eliminate the choices whose parallelism is clearly inferior (such as c). there's also the issue of redundancy / lack of clarity, caused by the juxtaposition of "one" and "once" in the same construction. _________________ Ron has been teaching various standardized tests for 20 years. -- Pueden hacerle preguntas a Ron en castellano Potete chiedere domande a Ron in italiano On peut poser des questions Ã Ron en franÃ§ais Voit esittÃ¤Ã¤ kysymyksiÃ¤ Ron:lle myÃ¶s suomeksi -- Quand on se sent bien dans un vÃªtement, tout peut arriver. Un bon vÃªtement, c'est un passeport pour le bonheur. Yves Saint-Laurent -- Learn more about ron Free Manhattan Prep online events - The first class of every online Manhattan Prep course is free. Classes start every week. Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts Joined 21 Mar 2010 Posted: 301 messages Upvotes: 4 I understand now..... Newbie | Next Rank: 10 Posts Joined 12 Oct 2010 Posted: 8 messages Answer is D • Free Veritas GMAT Class Experience Lesson 1 Live Free Available with Beat the GMAT members only code • 5 Day FREE Trial Study Smarter, Not Harder Available with Beat the GMAT members only code • 5-Day Free Trial 5-day free, full-access trial TTP Quant Available with Beat the GMAT members only code • Award-winning private GMAT tutoring Register now and save up to$200

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