I just Beat The GMAT!

*This is very long, so read at your own risk*

Hi everyone,

A comment about the title: I scored a 200 on my Kaplan diagnostic GMAT. I got completely frustrated by the math section and didn't even take the verbal section. My first real score was a 640.



I'm not a frequent poster on this website, but I often turned to it when I needed motivation to study. So, to thank all of you and to pay my dues, here is my debrief:

Score History:
GmatPrep1: 640 (initial baseline)
Kaplan Free Test: 640
GmatPrep2: 740 (after a few weeks of light studying)
Kaplan CAT Diagnostic: 200 (long story)
Kaplan CAT 3: 700
Kaplan CAT 4: 760
Kaplan CAT 5: 760
Kaplan CAT 6: 760
GmatPrep1: 740 (It had been months since I took the first one, so I took it again. I don't think I got any repeat questions, or questions that I remembered)
Kaplan CAT 7: 750

Study Strategy and timeline:
I started light studying around January for a May exam (an hour or two a week). I realized that, while I am generally stronger in math, I had trouble dissecting the GMAT questions, so I spent the majority of my time re-learning the math concepts that I needed to know. I took my baseline GmatPrep test, and got a 640. I wasn't happy with this at all, especially because I felt I had been studying, so I knew I really had to step it up. My company funded a Kaplan class, so I took the diagnostic (640 again - darn) and got into the advanced class. The weeks before the Kaplan class, I stepped up my studying to maybe 5 hours a week or more, mostly after work, and took the second GMATPrep test. I got a 740, and was extremely excited by my progress. I even considered skipping the Kaplan class and just taking the test, but I wanted to make sure that I got score, and figured that it might be possible to do even better.

I got pretty proficient at most question types before the Kaplan class started, but I was extremely dilligent with the homework, and focused on my weakness areas (difficult data sufficiency problems and sentence correction). I took the class every Tuesday night from 6:30-9. At 9, I would do at least half of my homework for the week (this was a great stamina building exercise - by the end of the night I would have about 5 hours of studying under my belt after a long day of work). Wednesday and Thursday, I would finish the rest of the homework. Friday I either wouldn't study, or if I had time at work I would take some quizzes in the Kaplan quiz bank. I tried to take practice tests every Saturday at 12, because that's when my real test would be.

My personal situation during the study period was pretty difficult. My dad was extremely sick, and I was spending a lot of time taking care of him. I often had to pull all-nighters to watch him at night, and spent these long nights doing practice problems. While I don't think I got an incredible amount out of this practice, it was still good to keep my mind off of things and feel like I was doing something productive.

I ended up missing the last few of my Kaplan classes because of my responsibilities at home, and stopped practicing about four weeks before my test. My father unfortunately passed away about two weeks before my test, and I wasn't able to do anything for a week after that.

I strongly considered moving the test day (GMAC actually told me that they would waive the reschedule fee). Honestly, I was completely sick and tired of studying for this test, and I just made a final push to study hard the week before. My practice test was on Saturday. The Sunday before, I took a the second GMAT Prep and got a 740 (a little disappointing, because I thought that Kaplan was supposed to be harder than Gmatprep, and I had gotten three 760's in a row prior to stopping studying). I wrote this off to the fact that I hadn't studied in weeks and that I was still mentally struggling. I studied hard on Monday. I took another Kaplan practice test on Tuesday, and got a 750 (92% correct on math which was my best yet). I still didn't feel back to my old self. I studied hard on Wednesday, and tried to take a practice test on Thursday, but I felt a sudden wave of burn-out. I couldn't focus on any of the problems, didn't think I could solve them, so I just told myself that I needed to stop. I didn't do another problem until the morning of the test (I did 10 medium problems just to warm up). My burn-out on Thursday was making me extremely nervous, because it was my first "fail" on a Practice test since my Diagnostic Kaplan test.

Test Day:
I was pretty nervous about the test, so I took a sleeping pill to help me sleep the night before. I highly recommend doing this - you want to be well rested, and it can be hard to sleep before something like this. I woke up at 7:00 AM, and just mosied around the house for a while, watched some TV, and hypnotized myself twice to calm down, and also to be confident (my dad taught me how to do this. Pretty helpful). I packed two water bottles and three granola bars for the test, aimed to get to the test center about 45 minutes before the test. I didn't realize that getting there early meant that I had to start early, which actually worked for me because I didn't want to sit in the waiting room thinking about how nervous I was.

The test was very similar to the GMATPrep software tests, so I highly recommend taking these. I was extremely frustrated during the math section, and felt that my mind was completely blank. This scared me, because math is my strong section. I ran out of room on my scratch booklet, so I raised my hand to get another book and the proctor had their eyes closed, so it took a few minutes for her to see me. This was extremely frustrating, since I knew that on practice tests I tended to use up all of the time available. It turned out to hurt me a little bit, as I ran out of time and had to make educated guesses on the last two or three problems (the last problem I literally just picked a number). I found the math to be significantly harder than the Kaplan practice tests, though I know from experience that, as you get to the harder questions, it becomes "luck of the draw" - you either get a hard question that you're good at or a hard question that you're not. I got unlucky I guess.

To get my confidence back up for the verbal section, I told myself that the ridiculously hard questions were probably their "random testing" questions that don't count. The verbal section went very smoothly, with no major issues. I found it to be a little bit harder than most of the practice tests I took, but this is probably due to the added stress of test-day. I also used just about all the time for this section; during my practice tests, I frequently had 10-15 minutes left at the end of the verbal section, so this was a surprise.

When I found out that I got a 750, I breathed a huge sigh of relief. It had been a long few months of studying, and the most difficult period of my life personally and emotionally. My dad would be proud.


The Kaplan Course
The Kaplan course was a pretty good course. I didn't get an incredible amount out of the classes because I already knew how to do most of the problems, but their online quiz banks, amount of practice problems, and general structure were incredibly helpful. Even though I took the LiveOnline Advanced class, if your company isn't paying I highly recommend taking the much less expensive On Demand class (about $500 minus any discounts) if you feel like you're capable of teaching yourself the material. They give you books (Official Guide, Kaplan Coursebook, another Kaplan Book, etc) a pen/whiteboard, 9 practice tests, focused quizzes after each class which really help you grasp the material immediately, and a huge quiz bank of questions that prepare you for most question types. If you follow their outline, do all their homework, and take at least 4 or 5 CAT's. You can sell the books after to recoup 50-100 dollars of it.

Practice Tests
Take. Practice. Tests. Lots of them. The knowledge required for this test is basic; the GMAT tests stamina and critical thinking - by test day, you will have the knowledge to solve the problems. You just need to identify the right path. But, to do this, you need to be awake. THE ONLY WAY TO BUILD STAMINA IS TO PRACTICE.
- Do not skip the essays on practice tests. Ever.
- Try to practice at the same time of day that you schedule your tests for.
- Review the test immediately afterwards. Not only will everything still be fresh in your mind, but it will build your stamina even further.
- Keep to the set amount of breaks. I recommend only taking 6 minute breaks, because at the test center it takes some time to check in/out of breaks.
- If you can, use a pen/whiteboard type pad when you practice for the GMAT. I'm not sure where, but you can probably buy them online. Especially if you're a lefty like me, using a pen/whiteboard can really throw you, and it helps to do as many practice problems/test with it as possible.
- This may seem stupid, but practice trying to make efficient use of your work space. If you need to raise your hand to get another pad during the test, the proctor might not see you immediately (they are "watching" the cameras in the room) and may take some time to get you the pad. This happened to me.

You have not taken enough practice tests if you are feeling tired at the end of the verbal section. The test will not forgive you for being tired. Not knowing how to do a problem is one thing, but fatigue is a stupid reason to do badly on this test. It is completely avoidable with good preparation, and is one of the only parts of this test that is in your control.


How to do practice problems
Don't do 100 problems a night and look at the explanation only for the answers you got wrong - save this type of studying for your practice tests. For at least most of the problems you do each night, do one problem, and then look at how the book says to do the problem immediately (whether you got the problem right or wrong). There are a many benefits to studying this way:
- You learn new concepts you get to practice immediately. If you learn what you should have done after you finish practicing, when are you going to practice your new skills?
- You learn more than one way to do each problem. The best test takers know 2-3 ways to solve every problem. You're likely to get stuck on test day, as I did, but if you can change your approach quickly, you can salvage some of the tougher questions.

Study Material Review
Official Guide - I bought the verbal and math workbooks in addition to the official guide books. Obviously, these were the best indicators of the real math questions. DO NOT USE THEIR ANSWER EXPLANATIONS. The way they tell you to do the problems is the way they want you to do the problems, and is almost never the quickest way. Spend extra time when doing the official guide problems asking yourself, "would this have been quicker any other way?"

Kaplan - Great for the structure, verbal section, and the quantity of practice materials. I felt their math problems were, on the whole, a little bit easier than the actual test.

Manhattan GMAT - I only used this for the sentence correction, but it was extremely helpful. Read their sentence correction book twice slowly, and pair that with volumes of practice, and you will have absolutely everything you need to get 90-100% of the sentence correction correct.

Manhattan Review - I only bought the math books. The explanations of the problems are horrible, but some of the problems are good. I only recommend using these if you have the spare cash and time. Buy used ones off Amazon.


Kaplan tests vs. actual GMAT GMAT:
I've read a lot of interesting opinions about how Kaplan CATs compare to the actual GMAT. Most reviews that I read thought that Kaplan was much more difficult than the actual GMAT, but my high practice test scores made me doubt that. I thought that Kaplan verbal section was very reflective of what I saw on the actual GMAT, but the Kaplan math section did not prepare me extremely well (despite my good overall score, I scored a lot lower on the math on the real GMAT than I had been in many of my Kaplan CATs).



Things you should know about the test that I didn't:
- The whiteboard you get is actually yellow, and about 8.5 inches wide and 14 inches long (longer than standard copy paper). The pen is a pretty thin pen - both are much better than the ones Kaplan gave me, which was a pleasant surprise. The pen did not smudge nearly as much as I thought it would, so lefties should not worry too much about smudging.
- Try to manage the space you use for your scratch work. My proctor didn't notice that I was raising my hand for a new pad, and I lost about 3 minutes (I ended up being about a question and a half short at the end which I had to make educated guesses on).
- They don't let you just sit at your desk during breaks. I had practiced making an "abcde" grid for the verbal section to save me time during the test, but to my surprise, the second I sat down my proctor started the test and I didn't get to make the grid. So, if you have any time left in the Math section, use it to make your grid, or make it before you raise your hand (or at the beginning of the test if you don't think you'll need the whole pad for the math section).
- It takes a minute or two during breaks for them to check you out/in with your ID and handprint, so factor these in to your 8 minute breaks.
- If you get there a little early, you might have to start early. I got there at 11:15 for my 12:00 test, and they had me taking the test by 11:25.

This is not my finest piece of writing, so please ask any questions that I did not cover or that you want clarification on. Points to anyone who can find the 23 grammar errors. Just kidding, though it would probably be good practice.

BSchool1 wrote:*This is very long, so read at your own risk*

Hi everyone,

A comment about the title: I scored a 200 on my Kaplan diagnostic GMAT. I got completely frustrated by the math section and didn't even take the verbal section. My first real score was a 640.



I'm not a frequent poster on this website, but I often turned to it when I needed motivation to study. So, to thank all of you and to pay my dues, here is my debrief:

Score History:
GmatPrep1: 640 (initial baseline)
Kaplan Free Test: 640
GmatPrep2: 740 (after a few weeks of light studying)
Kaplan CAT Diagnostic: 200 (long story)
Kaplan CAT 3: 700
Kaplan CAT 4: 760
Kaplan CAT 5: 760
Kaplan CAT 6: 760
GmatPrep1: 740 (It had been months since I took the first one, so I took it again. I don't think I got any repeat questions, or questions that I remembered)
Kaplan CAT 7: 750

Study Strategy and timeline:
I started light studying around January for a May exam (an hour or two a week). I realized that, while I am generally stronger in math, I had trouble dissecting the GMAT questions, so I spent the majority of my time re-learning the math concepts that I needed to know. I took my baseline GmatPrep test, and got a 640. I wasn't happy with this at all, especially because I felt I had been studying, so I knew I really had to step it up. My company funded a Kaplan class, so I took the diagnostic (640 again - darn) and got into the advanced class. The weeks before the Kaplan class, I stepped up my studying to maybe 5 hours a week or more, mostly after work, and took the second GMATPrep test. I got a 740, and was extremely excited by my progress. I even considered skipping the Kaplan class and just taking the test, but I wanted to make sure that I got score, and figured that it might be possible to do even better.

I got pretty proficient at most question types before the Kaplan class started, but I was extremely dilligent with the homework, and focused on my weakness areas (difficult data sufficiency problems and sentence correction). I took the class every Tuesday night from 6:30-9. At 9, I would do at least half of my homework for the week (this was a great stamina building exercise - by the end of the night I would have about 5 hours of studying under my belt after a long day of work). Wednesday and Thursday, I would finish the rest of the homework. Friday I either wouldn't study, or if I had time at work I would take some quizzes in the Kaplan quiz bank. I tried to take practice tests every Saturday at 12, because that's when my real test would be.

My personal situation during the study period was pretty difficult. My dad was extremely sick, and I was spending a lot of time taking care of him. I often had to pull all-nighters to watch him at night, and spent these long nights doing practice problems. While I don't think I got an incredible amount out of this practice, it was still good to keep my mind off of things and feel like I was doing something productive.

I ended up missing the last few of my Kaplan classes because of my responsibilities at home, and stopped practicing about four weeks before my test. My father unfortunately passed away about two weeks before my test, and I wasn't able to do anything for a week after that.

I strongly considered moving the test day (GMAC actually told me that they would waive the reschedule fee). Honestly, I was completely sick and tired of studying for this test, and I just made a final push to study hard the week before. My practice test was on Saturday. The Sunday before, I took a the second GMAT Prep and got a 740 (a little disappointing, because I thought that Kaplan was supposed to be harder than Gmatprep, and I had gotten three 760's in a row prior to stopping studying). I wrote this off to the fact that I hadn't studied in weeks and that I was still mentally struggling. I studied hard on Monday. I took another Kaplan practice test on Tuesday, and got a 750 (92% correct on math which was my best yet). I still didn't feel back to my old self. I studied hard on Wednesday, and tried to take a practice test on Thursday, but I felt a sudden wave of burn-out. I couldn't focus on any of the problems, didn't think I could solve them, so I just told myself that I needed to stop. I didn't do another problem until the morning of the test (I did 10 medium problems just to warm up). My burn-out on Thursday was making me extremely nervous, because it was my first "fail" on a Practice test since my Diagnostic Kaplan test.

Test Day:
I was pretty nervous about the test, so I took a sleeping pill to help me sleep the night before. I highly recommend doing this - you want to be well rested, and it can be hard to sleep before something like this. I woke up at 7:00 AM, and just mosied around the house for a while, watched some TV, and hypnotized myself twice to calm down, and also to be confident (my dad taught me how to do this. Pretty helpful). I packed two water bottles and three granola bars for the test, aimed to get to the test center about 45 minutes before the test. I didn't realize that getting there early meant that I had to start early, which actually worked for me because I didn't want to sit in the waiting room thinking about how nervous I was.

The test was very similar to the GMATPrep software tests, so I highly recommend taking these. I was extremely frustrated during the math section, and felt that my mind was completely blank. This scared me, because math is my strong section. I ran out of room on my scratch booklet, so I raised my hand to get another book and the proctor had their eyes closed, so it took a few minutes for her to see me. This was extremely frustrating, since I knew that on practice tests I tended to use up all of the time available. It turned out to hurt me a little bit, as I ran out of time and had to make educated guesses on the last two or three problems (the last problem I literally just picked a number). I found the math to be significantly harder than the Kaplan practice tests, though I know from experience that, as you get to the harder questions, it becomes "luck of the draw" - you either get a hard question that you're good at or a hard question that you're not. I got unlucky I guess.

To get my confidence back up for the verbal section, I told myself that the ridiculously hard questions were probably their "random testing" questions that don't count. The verbal section went very smoothly, with no major issues. I found it to be a little bit harder than most of the practice tests I took, but this is probably due to the added stress of test-day. I also used just about all the time for this section; during my practice tests, I frequently had 10-15 minutes left at the end of the verbal section, so this was a surprise.

When I found out that I got a 750, I breathed a huge sigh of relief. It had been a long few months of studying, and the most difficult period of my life personally and emotionally. My dad would be proud.


The Kaplan Course
The Kaplan course was a pretty good course. I didn't get an incredible amount out of the classes because I already knew how to do most of the problems, but their online quiz banks, amount of practice problems, and general structure were incredibly helpful. Even though I took the LiveOnline Advanced class, if your company isn't paying I highly recommend taking the much less expensive On Demand class (about $500 minus any discounts) if you feel like you're capable of teaching yourself the material. They give you books (Official Guide, Kaplan Coursebook, another Kaplan Book, etc) a pen/whiteboard, 9 practice tests, focused quizzes after each class which really help you grasp the material immediately, and a huge quiz bank of questions that prepare you for most question types. If you follow their outline, do all their homework, and take at least 4 or 5 CAT's. You can sell the books after to recoup 50-100 dollars of it.

Practice Tests
Take. Practice. Tests. Lots of them. The knowledge required for this test is basic; the GMAT tests stamina and critical thinking - by test day, you will have the knowledge to solve the problems. You just need to identify the right path. But, to do this, you need to be awake. THE ONLY WAY TO BUILD STAMINA IS TO PRACTICE.
- Do not skip the essays on practice tests. Ever.
- Try to practice at the same time of day that you schedule your tests for.
- Review the test immediately afterwards. Not only will everything still be fresh in your mind, but it will build your stamina even further.
- Keep to the set amount of breaks. I recommend only taking 6 minute breaks, because at the test center it takes some time to check in/out of breaks.
- If you can, use a pen/whiteboard type pad when you practice for the GMAT. I'm not sure where, but you can probably buy them online. Especially if you're a lefty like me, using a pen/whiteboard can really throw you, and it helps to do as many practice problems/test with it as possible.
- This may seem stupid, but practice trying to make efficient use of your work space. If you need to raise your hand to get another pad during the test, the proctor might not see you immediately (they are "watching" the cameras in the room) and may take some time to get you the pad. This happened to me.

You have not taken enough practice tests if you are feeling tired at the end of the verbal section. The test will not forgive you for being tired. Not knowing how to do a problem is one thing, but fatigue is a stupid reason to do badly on this test. It is completely avoidable with good preparation, and is one of the only parts of this test that is in your control.


How to do practice problems
Don't do 100 problems a night and look at the explanation only for the answers you got wrong - save this type of studying for your practice tests. For at least most of the problems you do each night, do one problem, and then look at how the book says to do the problem immediately (whether you got the problem right or wrong). There are a many benefits to studying this way:
- You learn new concepts you get to practice immediately. If you learn what you should have done after you finish practicing, when are you going to practice your new skills?
- You learn more than one way to do each problem. The best test takers know 2-3 ways to solve every problem. You're likely to get stuck on test day, as I did, but if you can change your approach quickly, you can salvage some of the tougher questions.

Study Material Review
Official Guide - I bought the verbal and math workbooks in addition to the official guide books. Obviously, these were the best indicators of the real math questions. DO NOT USE THEIR ANSWER EXPLANATIONS. The way they tell you to do the problems is the way they want you to do the problems, and is almost never the quickest way. Spend extra time when doing the official guide problems asking yourself, "would this have been quicker any other way?"

Kaplan - Great for the structure, verbal section, and the quantity of practice materials. I felt their math problems were, on the whole, a little bit easier than the actual test.

Manhattan GMAT - I only used this for the sentence correction, but it was extremely helpful. Read their sentence correction book twice slowly, and pair that with volumes of practice, and you will have absolutely everything you need to get 90-100% of the sentence correction correct.

Manhattan Review - I only bought the math books. The explanations of the problems are horrible, but some of the problems are good. I only recommend using these if you have the spare cash and time. Buy used ones off Amazon.


Kaplan tests vs. actual GMAT GMAT:
I've read a lot of interesting opinions about how Kaplan CATs compare to the actual GMAT. Most reviews that I read thought that Kaplan was much more difficult than the actual GMAT, but my high practice test scores made me doubt that. I thought that Kaplan verbal section was very reflective of what I saw on the actual GMAT, but the Kaplan math section did not prepare me extremely well (despite my good overall score, I scored a lot lower on the math on the real GMAT than I had been in many of my Kaplan CATs).



Things you should know about the test that I didn't:
- The whiteboard you get is actually yellow, and about 8.5 inches wide and 14 inches long (longer than standard copy paper). The pen is a pretty thin pen - both are much better than the ones Kaplan gave me, which was a pleasant surprise. The pen did not smudge nearly as much as I thought it would, so lefties should not worry too much about smudging.
- Try to manage the space you use for your scratch work. My proctor didn't notice that I was raising my hand for a new pad, and I lost about 3 minutes (I ended up being about a question and a half short at the end which I had to make educated guesses on).
- They don't let you just sit at your desk during breaks. I had practiced making an "abcde" grid for the verbal section to save me time during the test, but to my surprise, the second I sat down my proctor started the test and I didn't get to make the grid. So, if you have any time left in the Math section, use it to make your grid, or make it before you raise your hand (or at the beginning of the test if you don't think you'll need the whole pad for the math section).
- It takes a minute or two during breaks for them to check you out/in with your ID and handprint, so factor these in to your 8 minute breaks.
- If you get there a little early, you might have to start early. I got there at 11:15 for my 12:00 test, and they had me taking the test by 11:25.

This is not my finest piece of writing, so please ask any questions that I did not cover or that you want clarification on. Points to anyone who can find the 23 grammar errors. Just kidding, though it would probably be good practice.

You are the man!!!! Congrats

Hey bschool. The 200 is misleading cos I thought you scored 200 on a real test. But hey 750! That's an awesome score. Too good.

@Victory_GMAT,
please avoid quoting long posts like that. Makes it very difficult to scroll.

No 200 could be realistic because if you don't know how to approach data sufficiency amd you don't know how the approach verbal portion then it is quite realistic to score 200-210. It seems from ditch to top. 200--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------500----------------------------------------------------------------------------600------------------------------------700-----------------------------------------720--------------------------------------------------------------750!!!!!!

Sorry about the misleading title... I just thought it was funny that I did so badly on the diagnostic. Probably the most improved kaplan student of all time, technically haha.

Woww!! AMazing ..Inspiring!! Despite the huge personal loss your determination didnt let you down. Kudos to you!!

One thing i wanted to ask about the Kap CAT's - i took one of them, i dnt have access to 9 CAT's around 6 i beleive - I bought their premier edition book which gives access to online CATs, didnt take their classes as such.
but i noticed that their so called adaptive test gives chunk of SC CR RC PS DS questions at t atime, was it same with you too? not sure then how adaptive they are...
thanks,
cheers,

Thanks - as I said before, I was practicing a lot better pertcentile wise according to Kaplan, so I was a little disappointed with the math, but considering the situation, I will take it. Also, I think i scored too high overall to retake.

To respond to your question: I don't think the "mixup" of the problem types are the problem with the adaptivity of the Kaplan tests. There are only two question types on Math and three on Verbal, so that really shouldn't be an issue. THe only question type that didn't repeat for me was Reading Comprehension, which makes sense, because there were only four of those passages. Think about it - if you only have two question types and 37 questions, how will you not see multiple in a row?

My issue with the adaptivity of Kaplan was this: With the math, I felt like the problems got harder a lot more slowly than on the real GMAT. On the real GMAT, I started slowing down after only 6 or 7 questions, where on the Kaplan, I would start slowing down after 10-15 questions. On the verbal, I felt Kaplan just mixed around medium/hard questions. But I also think that verbal is a lot harder to judge difficulty. Some people know some rules, some people know others. Some people can stay interested in some passages, some people can't. An engineer might have loved the passages that I got about science, but I can't pay attention.

Don't worry about the mixup of problems - if you're challenged and are constantly improving your knowledge of the material and percentages of questions you get right (of the same difficulty), you will be fine and ready. The order of the questions shouldn't throw you at all.

Also, regarding verbal - after studying for so long, I honestly don't think any verbal question is extremely difficult. I know the 7 or 8 grammar rules down pat (minus all the idioms... but I didn't get any uncommon idioms on my test), and I built my stamina and method for reading comprehension and critical reasoning. The verbal is all about practice.

WOW!!! This is truly an inspiration to someone who is struggling with the GMAT for sometime. Can you pls drop me a message on fb, my username is Teejay Tudor. Looking forward to hearing from you.

Awesome post boss! Truly Inspirational...

superb man..an inspiration for me to work much harder

Hats off to you for scoring an impressive 750 while dealing with personal issues. Strong mind, I must say!

Congrats !!!! It doesn't matter how much you score in MOCK test(Although It matters but you shouldn't be dishearten). What really matters is how much you have scored in the actual exam & you proved it. Thanks for such an inspirational debrief. I will work more hard than ever.