like vs as, true vs untrue

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like vs as, true vs untrue

by tanviet » Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:19 pm
this is Q 122 OG 11 but I do not get full explain, pls, explain

More than 30 years ago, Dr. Barbara McClintock, the Nobel Prize winner, reported that genes can "jump", /as pearls moving mysteriously from one necklace to another./

b, like pearls moving mysteriously from one necklace to another

c, as pearls do that move mysteriously from one necklace to others

what is difference between "like...doing" and "as...do" here? Pls, explain

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by logitech » Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:24 pm
Why don't you post the whole question ?
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Re: like vs as, true vs untrue

by iamcste » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:41 pm
duongthang wrote:this is Q 122 OG 11 but I do not get full explain, pls, explain

More than 30 years ago, Dr. Barbara McClintock, the Nobel Prize winner, reported that genes can "jump", /as pearls moving mysteriously from one necklace to another./

b, like pearls moving mysteriously from one necklace to another

c, as pearls do that move mysteriously from one necklace to others

what is difference between "like...doing" and "as...do" here? Pls, explain
Logitech is right. Pls post the full qtn

In between, here actions are compared...use "As"

If nouns were compared, you must use "like"

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by tanviet » Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:44 pm
Here is full Q.

More than 30 years ago Dr. Barbara McClintock, the Nobel Prize winner, reported that genes can "jump", /as pearls moving mysteriously from one necklace to another

a,
b, like pearls moving myteriously from one necklace to another

c, as pearls do that move mysteriously from one necklace to others

d, like pearls do that move mysteriously from one necklace to others

e, as do pearls that move mysteriously from one necklace to some other one

this is Q22. OG 11. OA is b, but why c is wrong, Pls, give full explaination.

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by parallel_chase » Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:56 pm
duongthang wrote:Here is full Q.

More than 30 years ago Dr. Barbara McClintock, the Nobel Prize winner, reported that genes can "jump", /as pearls moving mysteriously from one necklace to another

a,
b, like pearls moving myteriously from one necklace to another

c, as pearls do that move mysteriously from one necklace to others

d, like pearls do that move mysteriously from one necklace to others

e, as do pearls that move mysteriously from one necklace to some other one

this is Q22. OG 11. OA is b, but why c is wrong, Pls, give full explaination.


C is wrong because it uses "as" instead of "like"

Also correct Idiom is one another / each other

C uses incorrect idiom one...other.

refer to iamcste's post for difference between AS and LIKE.

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by perfectstranger » Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:11 am
More than 30 years ago Dr. Barbara McClintock, the Nobel Prize winner, reported that genes can "jump", /as pearls moving mysteriously from one necklace to another .

Here why did we use like since .....genes can jump introduces subject and verb and as is used with clauses that have subjects and verbs ?
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by mmslf75 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:24 am
perfectstranger wrote:More than 30 years ago Dr. Barbara McClintock, the Nobel Prize winner, reported that genes can "jump", /as pearls moving mysteriously from one necklace to another .

Here why did we use like since .....genes can jump introduces subject and verb and as is used with clauses that have subjects and verbs ?
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Ron's explanation

there are actually 0 verbs in the stuff that follows "like". only the stuff that follows "like" counts for determining whether it should be "like" or "as".

* "reported" is not in the part following "like", so it's irrelevant.

* "moving" is not a verb.
-ing forms are NOT verbs. they can be a number of different things - adjectives, gerunds (= nouns), and participles - but never actual VERBS (i.e., tensed verbs, which can be the main verb of an independent clause).
in this case, "moving" is a participle, which creates a modifier describing "pearls".
once again, -ing forms are NOT verbs. this is important.

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by yodeepak » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:50 pm
Hi guys, I know it is too late to post on this topic; however, I feel the right answer should be presented.

A- as pearls moving mysteriously from one necklace to another - Green text is a prepositional phrase and not a clause. Prepositional phrase is used for NOUNS. So as is wrong here.
B- like pearls moving mysteriously from one necklace to another - CORRECT because it is using LIKE with NOUN + Prepositional Phrase (not a Clause)
C- as pearls do that move mysteriously from one necklace to others - Pearls do not move themselves but their movement need to be triggered by some external events. So it has illogical meaning. And later part is not idiomatic.
D- like pearls do that move mysteriously from one necklace to others. LIKE cannot be used with a clause.
E - as do pearls that move mysteriously from one necklace to some other one - Same as explained in C and D.

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by tanviet » Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:25 am
apart from "one necklace to others" , Why C is wrong?

why "as pears do that move" is wrong in C.

pls explain, og explanation is not good.

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by Ankur87 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:24 pm
duongthang wrote:apart from "one necklace to others" , Why C is wrong?

why "as pears do that move" is wrong in C.

pls explain, og explanation is not good.
genes can jump like pearls

here (noun)genes compared to (noun)pearls
we are not comparing "jump" with "moving".
so here we require like not as.

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by Tommy Wallach » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:57 am
Hey Guys,

All the correct explanations have been given here, but there is also some misinformation, so I thought I'd finish it off for you. Also, please try to post questions with full grammatical correctness (i.e. please read over what you wrote and edit it if there are errors). Also, it really helps people out if you place the underline using the tools up above the input box. Thanks!
More than 30 years ago Dr. Barbara McClintock, the Nobel Prize winner, reported that genes can "jump", as pearls moving mysteriously from one necklace to another.

(A) as pearls moving mysteriously from one necklace to another
(B) like pearls moving myteriously from one necklace to another
(C) as pearls do that move mysteriously from one necklace to others
(D) like pearls do that move mysteriously from one necklace to others
(E) as do pearls that move mysteriously from one necklace to some other one
(A) "as" requires a clause after it. A clause requires a verb, but we don't have one here. "moving" is a participle (i.e. a type of adjective).
(B) CORRECT!
(C) This answer choice does use "as" correctly. Unfortunately, the word "that" is a relative pronoun, and it modifies whatever it touches. In this case, it's touching a verb ("do"), which it cannot modify. "One necklace to others" is slightly weird; a single pearl can't move to multiple necklaces at once.
(D) "like" cannot have a clause after it. The word "do" signals this as a clause, so the "like" is wrong.
(E) This answer choice does use "as" correctly. However, it makes a meaning error. This implies that pearls actually move from one necklace to another, which they don't. Also, "one necklace to some other one" is awkward.

Hope that helps/puts this to bed!

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by tanviet » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:40 am
in C, "move " is a noun and "that" is used as adjective

why C is wrong? pls explain

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by Tommy Wallach » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:30 am
Hey Duong,

Not sure where you're getting that explanation. "Move" is a verb and "that" is a relative pronoun. "Do" is also a verb. All relative pronouns modify the word directly before them, and "that" can't modify a verb. In this case, "that" is surrounded by verbs, so there's no escape! : )

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