Hi,
I have been practicing for the GMAT for about 3 months now. I have got a score of 420(Q35,V14) in my first test which was 3 months back. The last three test I took I got 570(Q48,V20), 610(Q51,V23) and 570(Q47,V22).
Verbal is killing me....I have been practicing a lot of verbal questions. Just Dont know what will increase my score......
I have exactly one month to go for GMAT (14th Nov). Please advice how to increase my score....I badly need a 650+ score. Thanks a lot
Note: I have completed OG11, Master the GMAT and am doing the 1000sc and KAPLAN at present.
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Is there any specific subject within verbal that is particularly difficult for you at the moment?
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To be honest all sections create problems for me....but specially RC. If I get a difficult RC, I am getting all answers wrong. Otherwise CR is fine and I am trying to improve my SC.
Please advice how to tackle the verbal section.
Please advice how to tackle the verbal section.
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We would love to help but need to have a very detailed understanding of your strengths and weaknesses so we can advise you. I could write for hours (days, even!) on various topics within verbal - but that's not very practical. The more you can tell us about your specific strengths and weaknesses, the more we can help.
Beyond just the three question types - what are you strengths and weaknesses within each? Which grammar rules are you good at? Which ones are you not as good at? How is your timing? On which types of problems are you too slow or too fast? (And, again, at greater detail than just "I'm slow on RC" - are you slow at reading the passage? or at answering the general questions? The specific detail ones? The inference questions? Etc.)
If you are having trouble identifying your specific strengths and weaknesses (which is not unusual), you may need some help from an outside source, such as a class or tutor. One way or the other, your starting point is to figure out, very specifically, what your strengths and weaknesses are across all considerations (question type, content area, timing, difficulty level) on the test.
Beyond just the three question types - what are you strengths and weaknesses within each? Which grammar rules are you good at? Which ones are you not as good at? How is your timing? On which types of problems are you too slow or too fast? (And, again, at greater detail than just "I'm slow on RC" - are you slow at reading the passage? or at answering the general questions? The specific detail ones? The inference questions? Etc.)
If you are having trouble identifying your specific strengths and weaknesses (which is not unusual), you may need some help from an outside source, such as a class or tutor. One way or the other, your starting point is to figure out, very specifically, what your strengths and weaknesses are across all considerations (question type, content area, timing, difficulty level) on the test.
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Well Stacey, here you go. I generally finish my verbal section in time so time management is not a problem.
In RC:
• To answer inference and details question I have to scan the whole passage which not only takes time but also confuses me.
• My reading speed is fine and I am also fine with the ‘summary of the passage’ questions but I almost get all the future application questions wrong.
• I generally have problems with politics, civil right related passages.
In SC:
• I have huge problems with verb tense and parallelism related sentences. Just cant figure out which is present or present perfect though I know the rule.
What I found out is that I am getting quiet a number of incorrect answers within the first 15 questions. Even though I fare well after that, it doesn’t help to increase my score.
Hope I can get my issues sorted out in time……
Thanks a lot.
In RC:
• To answer inference and details question I have to scan the whole passage which not only takes time but also confuses me.
• My reading speed is fine and I am also fine with the ‘summary of the passage’ questions but I almost get all the future application questions wrong.
• I generally have problems with politics, civil right related passages.
In SC:
• I have huge problems with verb tense and parallelism related sentences. Just cant figure out which is present or present perfect though I know the rule.
What I found out is that I am getting quiet a number of incorrect answers within the first 15 questions. Even though I fare well after that, it doesn’t help to increase my score.
Hope I can get my issues sorted out in time……
Thanks a lot.
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When you say your reading speed is fine for passages, give me an idea of the actual timing. How long does it take for you to read a shorter passage vs. a longer passage? (I'm talking about the initial read-through, before you address questions.)
If you are struggling with finding the answers to specific questions (both inference and straight what / why detail questions), then you are not paying enough attention to the structure of the information in the passage.
The passage as a whole has a "Big Point" - what's the one-sentence reason why the author wrote the passage?
Each paragraph also has a "main idea" - why did the author write this paragraph? (Note: for shorter passages, some paragraphs may have two main ideas) What kind of information does this paragraph contain?
Notice that I said "what kind of info" not "what info." I don't want to write down all of the details, or even read them very carefully at the beginning - that takes too long. But if I notice that the entire passage's Big Point is that artificial fertilizers are harming butterflies and we should use organic fertilizers instead, then I also want to notice that paragraph 1 tells me the Point and gives me some background, while paragraph two details how the artificial fertilizers harm the butterflies and paragraph 3 discusses alternative fertilizers that could be used and also mentions that the author thinks environmental laws should be passed to force the farmers to use these alternative fertilizers.
How, specifically, do the fertilizers harm the butterflies? I don't know, but I can find out in paragraph 2, so that's where I'll go look if I get a question about that. What's the author's tone? Oh, that one I know without going to look - the author is using a persuasive writing style to try to get the audience to agree with him / her. Why does the author discuss the Environmental Protection Agency's role in the regulation of pesticides? I don't know, but paragraph 3 talked about environmental stuff so let me go look over there. Etc.
When you are tempted to get too into the details on your initial read-through, remember that there are something like 6-8 questions written for each passage, but you'll only be given 3-4 of them. In other words, there are details in the passage about which you will NOT be questioned. So why learn the material up front?
If there are certain topics that trouble you, try to figure out why. Politics and civil rights - are you bored to tears and, because you're not interested, you lose focus? Do you try to bring in too much outside knowledge and overthink things and that gets you into trouble? When you lack knowledge about the topic, does that psych you out because you think, "I don't know anything about this!"? (Remember that all of the information you need to answer questions IS in front of you somewhere - RC questions do not require outside knowledge.)
As much as possible, try to study from the OG for this stuff - the language is so very particular that you need to get a feel for the real thing. Even though we try our best to mimic that, it's still not exactly like the real thing. You say you're done with OG11 but you're not really done with it if your score isn't where you want it to be. You haven't learned everything you could learn from that material. Don't just keep doing lots of new problems. Take the time to learn everything you can from official problems - everything from passage structure to how questions are worded to how right AND wrong answer choices are worded, etc.
For SC, if you really know the rules but still can't figure out how to apply them to GMAT-type sentences, here you might need some outside help. From your description here, I assume you have been studying this and do know the basics but you feel like you are hitting a wall and just don't know where to go. That is often a sign that you need some outside help - whether from a tutor or from a friend who does actually understand how to apply those rules (and is able to explain to you in a way that you understand).
And don't use 1000 SC. There are tons of errors and bad questions throughout there. Go back to OG again.![Smile :)](./images/smilies/smile.png)
If you are struggling with finding the answers to specific questions (both inference and straight what / why detail questions), then you are not paying enough attention to the structure of the information in the passage.
The passage as a whole has a "Big Point" - what's the one-sentence reason why the author wrote the passage?
Each paragraph also has a "main idea" - why did the author write this paragraph? (Note: for shorter passages, some paragraphs may have two main ideas) What kind of information does this paragraph contain?
Notice that I said "what kind of info" not "what info." I don't want to write down all of the details, or even read them very carefully at the beginning - that takes too long. But if I notice that the entire passage's Big Point is that artificial fertilizers are harming butterflies and we should use organic fertilizers instead, then I also want to notice that paragraph 1 tells me the Point and gives me some background, while paragraph two details how the artificial fertilizers harm the butterflies and paragraph 3 discusses alternative fertilizers that could be used and also mentions that the author thinks environmental laws should be passed to force the farmers to use these alternative fertilizers.
How, specifically, do the fertilizers harm the butterflies? I don't know, but I can find out in paragraph 2, so that's where I'll go look if I get a question about that. What's the author's tone? Oh, that one I know without going to look - the author is using a persuasive writing style to try to get the audience to agree with him / her. Why does the author discuss the Environmental Protection Agency's role in the regulation of pesticides? I don't know, but paragraph 3 talked about environmental stuff so let me go look over there. Etc.
When you are tempted to get too into the details on your initial read-through, remember that there are something like 6-8 questions written for each passage, but you'll only be given 3-4 of them. In other words, there are details in the passage about which you will NOT be questioned. So why learn the material up front?
If there are certain topics that trouble you, try to figure out why. Politics and civil rights - are you bored to tears and, because you're not interested, you lose focus? Do you try to bring in too much outside knowledge and overthink things and that gets you into trouble? When you lack knowledge about the topic, does that psych you out because you think, "I don't know anything about this!"? (Remember that all of the information you need to answer questions IS in front of you somewhere - RC questions do not require outside knowledge.)
As much as possible, try to study from the OG for this stuff - the language is so very particular that you need to get a feel for the real thing. Even though we try our best to mimic that, it's still not exactly like the real thing. You say you're done with OG11 but you're not really done with it if your score isn't where you want it to be. You haven't learned everything you could learn from that material. Don't just keep doing lots of new problems. Take the time to learn everything you can from official problems - everything from passage structure to how questions are worded to how right AND wrong answer choices are worded, etc.
For SC, if you really know the rules but still can't figure out how to apply them to GMAT-type sentences, here you might need some outside help. From your description here, I assume you have been studying this and do know the basics but you feel like you are hitting a wall and just don't know where to go. That is often a sign that you need some outside help - whether from a tutor or from a friend who does actually understand how to apply those rules (and is able to explain to you in a way that you understand).
And don't use 1000 SC. There are tons of errors and bad questions throughout there. Go back to OG again.
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Thanks Stacey, I'll try to follow the process you mentioned next time I practice.
About OG11, the problem is when I look at the exercise I find most of the answers known to me because I revised it quiet a number of time. (I have been preparing for 3 months now). The mistake which I made was that I didn't look at the answer explanations when I got one correct. So I get stuck when a similar rule is applied for a complicated problem.
I didnt know that the 1000SC contains error. I try to do only those whose explanations are discussed in this forum.
Its an absolutely brilliant forum you people are maintaining. Hope it helps all the future GMAT beaters
Thanks a lot again,
About OG11, the problem is when I look at the exercise I find most of the answers known to me because I revised it quiet a number of time. (I have been preparing for 3 months now). The mistake which I made was that I didn't look at the answer explanations when I got one correct. So I get stuck when a similar rule is applied for a complicated problem.
I didnt know that the 1000SC contains error. I try to do only those whose explanations are discussed in this forum.
Its an absolutely brilliant forum you people are maintaining. Hope it helps all the future GMAT beaters
Thanks a lot again,
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Hi - It doesn't matter if you remember the answers - that's not the point! Looking at the answer is just the first step in studying a problem. You have to analyze the entire structure and setup of the problem and the answer choices (especially on verbal).
For example, you're not done with a verbal problem until you can articulate exactly why each of the four wrong answers is wrong - well enough that you could explain to someone who doesn't understand. And take it further - which wrong answers are the most tempting? Can you tell which one is likely to be the most commonly chosen wrong answer? WHY is it so tempting - why do so many people fall for it? Etc.
Also, is the way that you approached the problem when you did it the first time the best way to approach it? Or is there a better way? What is that better way? How can you recognize, on different but similar problems in future, when you should use a certain approach? Etc.
I can sometimes spend 10 or 15 minutes analyzing just one problem - AFTER I've done it and checked my answer.
For example, you're not done with a verbal problem until you can articulate exactly why each of the four wrong answers is wrong - well enough that you could explain to someone who doesn't understand. And take it further - which wrong answers are the most tempting? Can you tell which one is likely to be the most commonly chosen wrong answer? WHY is it so tempting - why do so many people fall for it? Etc.
Also, is the way that you approached the problem when you did it the first time the best way to approach it? Or is there a better way? What is that better way? How can you recognize, on different but similar problems in future, when you should use a certain approach? Etc.
I can sometimes spend 10 or 15 minutes analyzing just one problem - AFTER I've done it and checked my answer.
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