In the mid-1920s the Hawthorne Works of the Western Electric Company was the scene of an intensive series of experiments that would investigate changes in working conditions as to their effects on workers' performance.
(A) that would investigate changes in working conditions as to their effects on workers' performance
(B) investigating the effects that changes in working conditions would have on workers' performance
(C) for investigating what the effects on workers' performance are that changes in working conditions would cause
(D) that investigated changes in working conditions' effects on workers' performance
(E) to investigate what the effects changes in working conditions would have on workers' performance
OA : B
P.S: It's an official question and I'm stuck between B & E. Experts - could you please share your detail analysis.Much thanks in advance.
In the mid-1920s the Hawthorne Works of the Western Electric
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In A, it is unclear whether their refers to changes or to conditions.IN the mid-1920s the Hawthorne Works of the Western Electric Company was the scene of an intensive series of experiments that would investigate changes in working conditions as to their effects on workers' performance.
a) that would investigate changes in working conditions as to their effects on workers' performance
b) investigating the effects that changes in working conditions would have on workers' performance
c) for investigating what the effects on workers' performance are that changes in working conditions would cause
d) that investigated changes in working conditions' effects on workers' performance
e) to investigate what the effects changes in working conditions would have on workers' performance
Eliminate A.
C: The Hawthorne Works WAS the scene...for investigating...what the effects...ARE.
Here, the sequence of events is illogical:
It is not possible that the Hawthorne Works WAS the scene (in the past) for investigating what the effects ARE (in the present).
Eliminate C.
D: changes in working conditions' effects
Here, there are changes in the EFFECTS.
The intended meaning of the original sentence is that there were changes in the WORKING CONDITIONS THEMSELVES.
Since D does not convey the intended meaning, eliminate D.
Construction: what + the + NOUN.
In this construction, what generally serves as the DIRECT OBJECT of a subsequent verb, while the + NOUN serves as the SUBJECT of this verb.
The director does not understand what the author of the graphic novel intended.
Here, what serves as the direct object of intended, while the author serves as the subject of this verb.
Conveyed meaning:
The author intended WHAT.
E: what the effects changes in working conditions would have on workers' performance
Implication of the portions in red:
The effects would have WHAT.
Not the intended meaning.
Eliminate E.
The correct answer is B.
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Thanks Mitch for your detail analysis.GMATGuruNY wrote:In A, it is unclear whether their refers to changes or to effects.IN the mid-1920s the Hawthorne Works of the Western Electric Company was the scene of an intensive series of experiments that would investigate changes in working conditions as to their effects on workers' performance.
a) that would investigate changes in working conditions as to their effects on workers' performance
b) investigating the effects that changes in working conditions would have on workers' performance
c) for investigating what the effects on workers' performance are that changes in working conditions would cause
d) that investigated changes in working conditions' effects on workers' performance
e) to investigate what the effects changes in working conditions would have on workers' performance
Eliminate A.
C: The Hawthorne Works WAS the scene...for investigating...what the effects...ARE.
Here, the sequence of events is illogical:
It is not possible that the Hawthorne Works WAS the scene (in the past) for investigating what the effects ARE (in the present).
Eliminate C.
D: changes in working conditions' effects
Here, there are changes in the EFFECTS.
The intended meaning of the original sentence is that there were changes in the WORKING CONDITIONS THEMSELVES.
Since D does not convey the intended meaning, eliminate D.
Construction: what + the + NOUN.
In this construction, what generally serves as the DIRECT OBJECT of a subsequent verb, while the + NOUN serves as the SUBJECT of this verb.
The director does not understand what the author of the graphic novel intended.
Here, what serves as the direct object of intended, while the author serves as the subject of this verb.
Conveyed meaning:
The author intended WHAT.
E: what the effects changes in working conditions would have on workers' performance
Implication of the portions in red:
The effects would have WHAT.
Not the intended meaning.
Eliminate E.
The correct answer is B.
A quick clarification -
Is this Construction(what + the + NOUN) strictly followed in GMAT ? I mean, couldn't the DIRECT OBJECT you mentioned be "what the effects" together ?
Also, if we tweak the option E a bit "to investigate what effects changes in working conditions would have on workers' performance" , then wouldn't it be correct per your explanation above (dropping 'the' from the original option) ?
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If what the effects serves as a direct object, we get:RBBmba@2014 wrote: A quick clarification -
Is this Construction(what + the + NOUN) strictly followed in GMAT ? I mean, couldn't the DIRECT OBJECT you mentioned be "what the effects" together ?
changes in working conditions would have WHAT THE EFFECTS on workers' performance.
This meaning makes no sense.
E, revised: what effects changes in working condition would have on workers' performanceAlso, if we tweak the option E a bit "to investigate what effects changes in working conditions would have on workers' performance" , then wouldn't it be correct per your explanation above (dropping 'the' from the original option) ?
Conveyed meaning:
changes in working conditions would have WHAT EFFECTS on workers' performance.
This meaning is sensical, but your revision of E seems more convoluted than the OA.
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Thanks Mitch.
So my takeaway is this - The Construction(what + the + NOUN) is strictly followed in GMAT...and we should look for the same to spot error in such cases. Right ?
So my takeaway is this - The Construction(what + the + NOUN) is strictly followed in GMAT...and we should look for the same to spot error in such cases. Right ?
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To generalize:RBBmba@2014 wrote:Thanks Mitch.
So my takeaway is this - The Construction(what + the + NOUN) is strictly followed in GMAT...and we should look for the same to spot error in such cases. Right ?
what + the + NOUN implies that the + NOUN is serving as a SUBJECT, with what serving as a separate PRONOUN.
John cannot remember what the teacher assigned for homework.
Conveyed meaning of the portion in red:
The teacher assigned WHAT for homework.
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Hi Mitch ,
Can you please clear my doubt. I might be wrong.
You eliminated option C because of present tense right?
Option B also in the present tense right ? then why option B?
Please suggest me and correct me if am wrong.
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Can you please clear my doubt. I might be wrong.
You eliminated option C because of present tense right?
Option B also in the present tense right ? then why option B?
Please suggest me and correct me if am wrong.
Thanks ,
Shreyans
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j_shreyans wrote:Hi Mitch ,
Can you please clear my doubt. I might be wrong.
You eliminated option C because of present tense right?
Option B also in the present tense right ? then why option B?
Please suggest me and correct me if am wrong.
Thanks ,
Shreyans
If i may answer this shreyans.....
In B 'would have' suggests a subjunctive mood its unlikely. The effects may appear and may not...
Plus we always use "Past tense" + "Subjunctive form" this is a normal form followed
In C, 'the effects are occurring' it is a sure event and It is being investigated before its occurrence ...now how could one investigate a situation before that has occurred...
Its like a murder investigation is going on before the murder happened... makes no sense..
I think this explains your doubt if i am wrong do argue .....
Also, Mitch i did not understand 'what'+ 'the'+ 'noun' form
Can you explain it in a bit details ... Sorry for the trouble but it will be greatly appreciated..
Thanks...
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Hi Akash ,
Thanks for your reply.
You eliminated option B because of some other reason , but my question is option B also in the present right?
So why option B?
Please correct me if am wrong.
Thanks,
Thanks for your reply.
You eliminated option B because of some other reason , but my question is option B also in the present right?
So why option B?
Please correct me if am wrong.
Thanks,
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One purpose of would is to express the FUTURE-IN-THE-PAST: an action expected to take place in the past after another past action.j_shreyans wrote:Option B also in the present tense right?
John promised that he WOULD arrive by 6pm.
Here, John promised (in the past) that he would arrive (sometime in the past AFTER he promised).
None of the verbs in B is in the present tense.
B: The Hawthorne Works of the Western Electric Company was the scene of an intensive series of experiments investigating the effects that changes in working conditions would have on workers' performance.
Here, there are two verbs:
was = simple past.
would have = future-in-the-past.
Note that investigating serves not as a verb but as a MODIFIER describing experiments.
What KIND of experiments?
Experiments INVESTIGATING THE EFFECTS.
When a VERBing serves as a modifier, it expresses an action that takes place AT THE SAME TIME AS THE MAIN VERB.
In B, since the main verb was is in the past, the act of investigating also took place in the past.
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Question: The CEO said what?akash singhal wrote:.
Also, Mitch i did not understand 'what'+ 'the'+ 'noun' form
Can you explain it in a bit details ... Sorry for the trouble but it will be greatly appreciated..
Thanks...
Here, the subject of said is the CEO.
If we rephrase this question as a statement, we get:
Please tell me what the CEO said.
Here, the subject of said is still the CEO.
As the example above shows, what the + NOUN implies that THE NOUN is serving as a SUBJECT.
E: what the effects...would have.
Here, what the effects implies that THE EFFECTS = SUBJECT.
Conveyed meaning:
The EFFECTS would have something.
But the intended meaning is not that the effects would have something but that CHANGES would have effects.
Since E does not convey the intended meaning, eliminate E.
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Hi GMATGuru,GMATGuruNY wrote: Construction: what + the + NOUN.
In this construction, what generally serves as the DIRECT OBJECT of a subsequent verb, while the + NOUN serves as the SUBJECT of this verb.
Couple of questions on the above -
1.Can you please confirm whether this Construction is STRICTLY FOLLOWED in GMAT ?
2.Is the 'verb' you referred to above ALWAYS the IMMEDIATE subsequent verb of what + the + NOUN structure or it can be any subsequent verb of this Construction ?
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This rule is not limited to the GMAT.RBBmba@2014 wrote:Hi GMATGuru,GMATGuruNY wrote: Construction: what + the + NOUN.
In this construction, what generally serves as the DIRECT OBJECT of a subsequent verb, while the + NOUN serves as the SUBJECT of this verb.
Couple of questions on the above -
1.Can you please confirm whether this Construction is STRICTLY FOLLOWED in GMAT ?
It applies to ANY sentence, anywhere.
the + NOUN will be the subject for the first verb that follows what + the + NOUN.2.Is the 'verb' you referred to above ALWAYS the IMMEDIATE subsequent verb of what + the + NOUN structure or it can be any subsequent verb of this Construction ?
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