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by jjjinapinch » Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:58 am

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If x, y, and z are positive numbers, what is the value of the average (arithmetic mean) of x and z ?

(1) x - y = y - z
(2) x^2 - y^2 = z

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Answer: E
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by Jay@ManhattanReview » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:39 pm
jjjinapinch wrote:If x, y, and z are positive numbers, what is the value of the average (arithmetic mean) of x and z ?

(1) x - y = y - z
(2) x^2 - y^2 = z

Official Guide question
Answer: E
Given: x, y and z each are positive
Arithmetic mean of x and z = (x + z)/2

Statement 1: x - y = y - z

=> y = (x + z)/2.

We do not have the value of y. Insufficient.

Statement 2: x^2 - y^2 = z

=> (x + y)(x - y) = z.

Can't get (x + z)/2. Insufficient.

Statement 1 & 2:

Even after combing the two statements, we cannot get the value of y or (x + z)/2. Insufficient!

The correct answer: E

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by [email protected] » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:54 am
Hi jjjinapinch,

We're told that X, Y and Z are POSITIVE numbers. We're asked for the average of X and Z. This question can be solved with a bit of math and TESTing VALUES.

1) X - Y = Y - Z

We can simplify this equation...
X + Z = 2Y

IF.... X=1, Z=1, Y=1, then the answer to the question is... (1+1)/2 = 1
IF.... X=2, Z=4, Y=3, then the answer to the question is... (2+4)/2 = 3
Fact 1 is INSUFFICIENT

2) X^2 - Y^2 = Z

IF.... X=2, Y=1, Z=3, then the answer to the question is... (2+3)/2 = 2.5
IF.... X=3, Y=1, Z=8, then the answer to the question is... (3+8)/2 = 5.5
Fact 2 is INSUFFICIENT

Combined, we can combine the two given equations....
X + Z = 2Y
X^2 - Y^2 = Z
into....
X + (X^2 - Y^2) = 2Y
X + X^2 = Y^2 + 2Y

Given that last equation - and since all 3 variables are POSITIVE - as X gets bigger, Y will ALSO get bigger. Since X could become a huge number (and Z is positive so it cannot 'offset' the increase in X'), the answer to the question "what is the average of X and Z?" will vary.
Combined, INSUFFICIENT

Final Answer: E

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by spark » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:45 am
Statement (1) can be simplified and looked at conceptually. No need to pick numbers.

(x + z)/2 = y

Since we have no idea what y is, statement (1) is insufficient.

Statement (2) tempts us to use the difference of squares common equation.

(x + y)(x - y) = z

Since x, y and z are all positive, we know x - y must be positive, or x - y > 0. So x > y. But this is about all we can get with this approach, and this is something we could have observed from x^2 - y^2 = z, since z is positive.

The fact that there are no values in x^2 - y^2 = z is a clue that there are many possible combinations of x, y and z that could work. In picking numbers, I always like to start with simple numbers that fit the situation. So since x > y, here are some numbers that fit:

x = 2
y = 1
z = 2^2 - 1 = 3
(x + z)/2 = 2.5

OR

x = 3
y = 2
z = 3^2 - 2^2 = 5
(x + z)/2 = 4

Since we get two possible values for (x + z)/2, statement (2) is insufficient.

For (1) and (2) together, here's an alternative to picking numbers. Notice that (1) tells us that y is the midpoint of x and z. Since (2) tells us that x > y, we know that z < y < x, and they are all evenly spaced. I like the idea of representing the spacing as d, so y = z + d, and x = z + 2d. Therefore, (2) gives us:

(z + 2d)^2 - (z + d)^2 = z
z^2 + 4dz + 4d^2 - z^2 - 2dz - d^2 = z
2dz + 3d^2 = z
3d^2 = z - 2dz = z(1-2d)
z = 3d^2/(1-2d)

In order to keep z positive, we must have d < ½, but as long as we do that, z could be lots of numbers, and therefore y and x could also be lots of numbers. Since (1) showed that our question is equivalent to y = ?, (1) and (2) together are insufficient.
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by Matt@VeritasPrep » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:56 pm
We want (x + z)/2.

S1:

x + z = 2y

(x + z)/2 = y

This is close! If we can figure out the value of y, we'll have our answer.

S2:

x² - y² = z

x² - z = y²

√(x² - z) = y

Ugh. This doesn't give us y, although it does give us another equation.

S1 + S2

We know from S1 that y = (x + z)/2. We know from S2 that y = √(x² - z). Together, we can say

(x + z)/2 = √(x² - z)

But that won't give us a unique solution set for x and z! (If the equation on the right were linear we'd be in good shape, but all we're going to get is a quadratic equation in two variables.) Even together, then, we can't find y, or any unique values.
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by Matt@VeritasPrep » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:06 pm
Just to elaborate on my last point, once we get

(x + z)/2 = √(x² - z)

we can say that

(x + z)²/2² = x² - z

(x² + 2xz + z²)/2² = x² - z

x² + 2xz + z² = 4x² - z

3x² - 2xz - z² - z = 0

If we make this a quadratic in x, such that

ax² + bx + c = 0

We can say that a = 3, b = -2z, and c = -z² - z. We know that for ax² + bx + c = 0, our solutions are x = (-b ± √(b² - 4ac))/2a, so we have

x = (-(-2z) ± √((-2z)² - 4*3*(-z² - z)))/2*3

x = (2z ± √(4z² - 12*(-z² - z)))/6

x = (2z ± 2√(z² - 3*(-z² - z)))/6

x = (z ± √(z² - 3*(-z² - z)))/3

x = (z ± √(4z² + 3z)))/3

We're still stuck with x in terms of z, and can't answer definitively.
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by Scott@TargetTestPrep » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:04 pm
jjjinapinch wrote:If x, y, and z are positive numbers, what is the value of the average (arithmetic mean) of x and z ?

(1) x - y = y - z
(2) x^2 - y^2 = z
We need to determine (x + z)/2.

Statement One Alone:

x - y = y - z

Simplifying the equation, we have:

x - y = y - z

x + z = 2y

Since x + z = 2y, we have:

(x + z)/2 = 2y/2 = y

However, since we do not know the value of y, we cannot determine the average. Statement one alone is not sufficient to answer the question.

Statement Two Alone:

x^2 - y^2 = z

This does not provide enough information to determine the average of x and z. For example, if x = 3 and y = 2, then z = 5, and the average of x and z would be 4. However, if x = 4 and y = 2, then z = 12, and the average of x and z would be 8. Statement two alone is not sufficient to answer the question.

Statements One and Two Together:

From statement one, we see that z = 2y - x, and from statement two, we have z = x^2 - y^2. Thus, we have 2y - x = x^2 - y^2.

Notice that the equation above has two variables; thus, there are infinitely many solutions. That is, we won't have a unique value for x or y, and hence we don't have a unique value for z, either. The two statements together are still not sufficient to answer the question.

Answer: E

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