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by RBBmba@2014 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:51 am
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In Hungary, as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in middle management and light industry.

A. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in
B. as with much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, many in
C. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of them in
D. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, and many are
E. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many are in
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A comparison must compare apples to apples: the right two things must be compared. In the SC above, what is happening in Hungary must be compared to what is happening in much of Eastern Europe. Eliminate B, D and E.

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The noun proportion is singular when it refers to a non-countable noun:

An overwhelming proportion of the female population works.
Hi GMATGuruNY - Isn't the population a COUNTABLE NOUN ? (I think, population means NUMBER,which is COUNTABLE)

Please clarify.
GMATGuruNY wrote: Use as to compare prepositional phrases:

In Hungary, as in much of Eastern Europe...

Use like to compare the nouns themselves:

Hungary, like much of Eastern Europe....
Could you please shed light on the USAGE of AS and LIKE in COMPARISON ?

What I know is that in COMPARISON GMAT SC, AS is used with CLAUSE and LIKE is used with NOUN/PRONOUN. What are OTHER USAGE of AS and LIKE that we can see on GMAT COMPARISON SC ?

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by GMATGuruNY » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:02 am
RBBmba@2014 wrote: Hi GMATGuruNY - Isn't the population a COUNTABLE NOUN ? (I think, population means NUMBER,which is COUNTABLE)
A COLLECTIVE NOUN is a noun that refers to a GROUP (group, audience, population, etc.)
Collective nouns are considered NON-COUNTABLE and are treated as SINGULAR:
The group IS large.
The audience WAS clapping.
The population HAS BEEN growing.

Could you please shed light on the USAGE of AS and LIKE in COMPARISON ?

What I know is that in COMPARISON GMAT SC, AS is used with CLAUSE and LIKE is used with NOUN/PRONOUN. What are OTHER USAGE of AS and LIKE that we can see on GMAT COMPARISON SC ?
This question is too broad.
It is not possible to list every usage of like and as that might appear on the GMAT.

In general:
as serves to compare CLAUSES.
like serves to compare NOUNS.

In the OA above, as serves to compare the following clauses:
In Hungary [an overwhelming proportion of women work], as in much of Eastern Europe [an overwhelming proportion of women work].

Some usages of like are discussed here:
https://www.beatthegmat.com/og-10-sc-t278863.html
https://www.beatthegmat.com/doubt-sc-1-t281532.html
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by RBBmba@2014 » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:03 am
GMATGuruNY wrote: In general:
as serves to compare CLAUSES.
like serves to compare NOUNS.

In the OA above, as serves to compare the following clauses:
In Hungary [an overwhelming proportion of women work], as in much of Eastern Europe [an overwhelming proportion of women work].
So, here ELLIPSIS at play. Right ?
GMATGuruNY wrote: The noun proportion is singular when it refers to a non-countable noun:

An overwhelming proportion of the female population works.

The noun proportion is plural when it refers to a countable noun:

An overwhelming proportion of women work.
It appears BIT TRICKY to me to apprehend the VARIATIONS (in NUMBER) the noun proportion has, as mentioned above. Could you please provide any insight to easily comprehend and indentify such NOUNs on GMAT ?

And could you please shed light on this - like proportion, are there any SIMILAR NOUNs that have such VARIATIONS (in NUMBER) and that are frequent on GMAT ?

Also, kindly clarify for the following phrase what should be the NUMBER of proportion (Singular or Plural) - An overwhelming proportion of ELEPHANT work, in which the ELEPHANT is THE RACE as a whole ?

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by GMATGuruNY » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:50 am
RBBmba@2014 wrote:
In the OA above, as serves to compare the following clauses:
In Hungary [an overwhelming proportion of women work], as in much of Eastern Europe [an overwhelming proportion of women work].
So, here ELLIPSIS at play. Right ?
Correct.
GMATGuruNY wrote: The noun proportion is singular when it refers to a non-countable noun:

An overwhelming proportion of the female population works.

The noun proportion is plural when it refers to a countable noun:

An overwhelming proportion of women work.
It appears BIT TRICKY to me to apprehend the VARIATIONS (in NUMBER) the noun proportion has, as mentioned above. Could you please provide any insight to easily comprehend and indentify such NOUNs on GMAT ?

And could you please shed light on this - like proportion, are there any SIMILAR NOUNs that have such VARIATIONS (in NUMBER) and that are frequent on GMAT ?
A + QUANTITY WORD + COUNTABLE NOUN = PLURAL:
A number of X's are Y.
A proportion of X's are Y.
A percentage of X's are Y
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In each case, the conveyed meaning is SEVERAL X ARE Y, so the verb is PLURAL.

A + QUANTITY WORD + NON-COUNTABLE NOUN = SINGULAR:
A proportion of X is Y.
A percentage of X is Y[/i].
In each case, the conveyed meaning is A FRACTION OF X IS Y, so the verb is SINGULAR.
Please note that number cannot serve to refer to a non-countable noun.

THE + QUANTITY WORD + COUNTABLE OR NON-COUNTABLE NOUN = SINGULAR:
THE number of X's is Y.
THE proportion of X's is Y.
THE percentage of X is Y.

In each case, the conveyed meaning is THE PARTICULAR STATISTIC IS Y, so the verb is SINGULAR.
Also, kindly clarify for the following phrase what should be the NUMBER of proportion (Singular or Plural) - An overwhelming proportion of ELEPHANT work, in which the ELEPHANT is THE RACE as a whole ?
The GMAT will not test this issue.
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by RBBmba@2014 » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:29 pm
GMATGuruNY wrote:
GMATGuruNY wrote: The noun proportion is singular when it refers to a non-countable noun:

An overwhelming proportion of the female population works.

The noun proportion is plural when it refers to a countable noun:

An overwhelming proportion of women work.
A + quantity word = PLURAL:
A number of X are Y.
A proportion of X are Y.
A percentage of X are Y
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In each case, the conveyed meaning is SEVERAL X ARE Y, so the verb is PLURAL.
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a proportion of X and a number of X must each be given a plural verb, regardless of the nature of X.
Hi GMATGuruNY - I'm getting confused from your above two quotes!

In the first, it appears that you've mentioned that A + quantity word(=proportion) of X IS PLURAL or SINGULAR depending on what X is.

But in your second quote, it's mentioned that A + quantity word(=proportion) of X ALWAYS PLURAL , irrespective of X.

Am I missing something ? Kindly clarify.

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by GMATGuruNY » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:03 am
RBBmba@2014 wrote:Am I missing something ? Kindly clarify.
Please revisit my post above.
Originally, I was considering quantity words only with respect to countable nouns such as women.
I've expanded the discussion to include non-countable nouns.
In short:
A + QUANTITY WORD + COUNTABLE NOUN = PLURAL.
A + QUANTITY WORD + NON-COUNTABLE NOUN = SINGULAR.
THE + QUANTITY WORD + COUNTABLE OR NON-COUNTABLE NOUN = SINGULAR.
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