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by aspirant2011 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:03 am
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aspirant2011 wrote:In option E it wrongly modifies physics I.e as if laws of physics were based n Einsten's theory of relativity or Newtons instead of development, therefore option E is wrong
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What do you mean by 'it'. You mean 'comma+based'? Can you explain why 'comma+past participle' modifies the noun attached to it rather than the entire clause?
Yes comma+ based is wrongly modifying laws of physics......

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by e-GMAT » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:14 am
Choice E is incorrect for two reasons:

1: Meaning: Per the original sentence, a causal relationship is established through the use of word "since". This causal relationship is no longer evident in Choice E, this choice is not correct. Remember that the correct answer should communicate the intended meaning of the original sentence.

2: Modifier Error: Per OG12, comma + verb-ed modifier set up modifies the closest noun. In this choice, this modification implies that the modifier - "based on..." modifies laws of Physics. This does not make sense.

Please refer to OG12 # 56 for more reference on this error.

Original Sentence - Many of the earliest known images of Hindu deities date from the time of the Kushan Empire, fashioned either from the spotted sandstone of Mathura or Gandharan grey schist.

Official Explanation - Placement of the modifier "fashioned..." suggests that the Empire (the closest noun), not the images of the deities, was fashioned out of these materials...

Thus, in this sentence, per the official explanations for Choices A and C, the verb-ed modifier separated by comma modifies the preceding noun (Kushan Empire) and not the preceding clause or the subject of the preceding clause (images of Hindu deities). Thus, these choices are incorrect.

In regular English, comma + verb-ed modifiers modify the preceding clause. They behave in similar manner as do comma + verb-ing modifiers. However, GMAT goes against this practice as is evident from OG12#56. Since Official Guides set up the rules here, we incorporate these rules in our course curriculum and questions. If down the line, OG modifies this question and changes the explanation, reflecting that comma + verb-ed modifiers modify preceding clause, then we will change our curriculum and questions based on this rule accordingly. :)

While we are at this topic, also check OG12#28 for similar usage of comma + verb-ed modifier.

Correct sentence with Choice B - ...the Mochica developed their own elaborate society, based on the cultivation of such crops as...

Official Explanation of the meaning of the sentence - The sentence describes the elaborate society of the Mochica with a series of three features...

Take-away Message
Comma + verb-ed Modifiers modify the preceding noun.

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by Frankenstein » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:24 am
e-GMAT wrote:Choice E is incorrect for two reasons:

1: Meaning: Per the original sentence, a causal relationship is established through the use of word "since". This causal relationship is no longer evident in Choice E, this choice is not correct. Remember that the correct answer should communicate the intended meaning of the original sentence.

2: Modifier Error: Per OG12, comma + verb-ed modifier set up modifies the closest noun. In this choice, this modification implies that the modifier - "based on..." modifies laws of Physics. This does not make sense.

Please refer to OG12 # 56 for more reference on this error.

Original Sentence - Many of the earliest known images of Hindu deities date from the time of the Kushan Empire, fashioned either from the spotted sandstone of Mathura or Gandharan grey schist.

Official Explanation - Placement of the modifier "fashioned..." suggests that the Empire (the closest noun), not the images of the deities, was fashioned out of these materials...

Thus, in this sentence, per the official explanations for Choices A and C, the verb-ed modifier separated by comma modifies the preceding noun (Kushan Empire) and not the preceding clause or the subject of the preceding clause (images of Hindu deities). Thus, these choices are incorrect.

In regular English, comma + verb-ed modifiers modify the preceding clause. They behave in similar manner as do comma + verb-ing modifiers. However, GMAT goes against this practice as is evident from OG12#56. Since Official Guides set up the rules here, we incorporate these rules in our course curriculum and questions. If down the line, OG modifies this question and changes the explanation, reflecting that comma + verb-ed modifiers modify preceding clause, then we will change our curriculum and questions based on this rule accordingly. :)

While we are at this topic, also check OG12#28 for similar usage of comma + verb-ed modifier.

Correct sentence with Choice B - ...the Mochica developed their own elaborate society, based on the cultivation of such crops as...

Official Explanation of the meaning of the sentence - The sentence describes the elaborate society of the Mochica with a series of three features...

Take-away Message
Comma + verb-ed Modifiers modify the preceding noun.
Hi,
Thanks a lot for the explanation. In fact, I have chosen A because of meaning. I have seen OG questions, in which 'comma + verb-ed' modifies entire clause as well.
Example: OG12 #5:
Diabetes, together with its serious complications,ranks as the nation's third leading cause of death,surpassed only by heart disease and cancer.
So, I thought comma+verb-ed can modify either the entire clause or the preceding noun. Could you explain this. But, I guess we are being forced by OG to change rules from one question to another?
Cheers!

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by e-GMAT » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:35 am
First of all Frankenstein, its great that you could eliminate choice E based on meaning. So continue with that approach of understanding the intended meaning.

Now I completely understand your predicament about the OG12#5 question. I have explained in the link below how we can still arrive at the correct answer using the rule that verb-ed modifiers always modify the closest noun. https://www.beatthegmat.com/variations-i ... tml#361728

If you come across other OG or GMAT Prep questions in which this rule does not appear to be applicable, then feel free to bring those to our notice.:)

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by lunarpower » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:43 am
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this problem is pretty sketchy.

first of all, it's unreasonable for a gmat problem; to distinguish between choice (a) and the other choices, the student would actually have to know the content of einstein's and newton's work (i.e., the fact that these people discovered laws of physics). without that outside knowledge, it is impossible to discern a causal effect as required.
because this sort of outside knowledge is miles beyond the scope of this test (on which the sentences don't require outside knowledge other than common sense), it's not worth discussing this difference.

second, it's clear that this problem has been written by someone who doesn't understand how the gmat works.
on real gmat problems, the underline ALWAYS starts at the first difference in the choices, and ALWAYS ends at the last difference in the choices.
in this problem, the author hasn't observed that convention -- note that all five choices end with "Einstein's work on relativity or".

if someone doesn't even know the basics of how the problems are supposed to be formatted in the first place, then that author clearly shouldn't be trusted to produce problems that provide any sort of authentic practice for the exam.
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