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The Jock: Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts; Posts: 207; Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:22 amFollowed by: 3 members; Location: India; Thanked: 5 times

by The Jock » Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:10 pm

The reforms to improve the quality of public education that have been initiated on the part of suppliers of public education have been insufficient. Therefore, reforms must be demanded by consumers. Parents should be given government vouchers with which to pay for their children's education and should be allowed to choose the schools at which the vouchers will be spent. To attract students, academically underachieving schools will be forced to improve their academic offerings.

The argument assumes that

(A) in selecting schools parents would tend to prefer a reasonable level of academic quality to greater sports opportunities or more convenient location
(B) improvement in the academic offerings of schools will be enforced by the discipline of the job market in which graduating students compete.
(C) There is a single best way to educate students
(D) Children are able to recognize which schools are better and would influence their parents' decisions.
(E) Schools would each improve all of their academic offerings and would not tend to specialize in one particular field to the exclusion of others.

OA after some discussion.

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by jaxis » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:17 pm

A looks good.

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by gmatmachoman » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:30 pm

The Jock wrote:The reforms to improve the quality of public education that have been initiated on the part of suppliers of public education have been insufficient. Therefore, reforms must be demanded by consumers. Parents should be given government vouchers with which to pay for their children's education and should be allowed to choose the schools at which the vouchers will be spent. To attract students, academically underachieving schools will be forced to improve their academic offerings.

The argument assumes that

(A) in selecting schools parents would tend to prefer a reasonable level of academic quality to greater sports opportunities or more convenient location

AFTER NEGATION tEST:

in selecting schools parents would NOT tend to prefer a reasonable level of academic quality to greater sports opportunities or more convenient location

Conclusion :
To attract students, academically underachieving schools will be forced to improve their academic offerings.

So after negation, the conclusion falls apart.

Pick A

OA after some discussion.

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by rishab1988 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:25 am

Another vote for A

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by gmat1011 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:35 am

i think its D.

The conclusion is "consumers" should demand reform. The children are the consumers at schools not their parents. Thus, for them to truly demand reform they must be able to recognize and ask their parents.

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by sanabk » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:14 pm

I am teetering between D and A. Someone please kindly shed some light???

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by anilmac » Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:35 pm

IMO the answer is E.

What is the correct answer?

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beat_gmat_09: Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts; Posts: 437; Joined: Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:06 amFollowed by: 1 member; Location: India; Thanked: 50 times; GMAT Score:580

by beat_gmat_09 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:50 pm

I'd go with E
Main conclusion - academically underachieving schools will be forced to improve their academic offerings.
Sub conclusion - reforms must be demanded by consumers.
E connects from premise to conclusion.

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gmat1011: Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts; Posts: 160; Joined: Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:41 am; Thanked: 7 times

by gmat1011 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:04 pm

it cannot be E. One doesn't have to assume ALL offerings will be improved; perfection is not what the stem is after where the conclusion is consumers must demand reform and doing so would compel underachieving school to "improve" acad offerings... it doesn't say ALL acd offerings... it could just be an improvement in 5% or 2% of the offerings.... The assumption need not be for ALL.

The OA on the LSAT forum for this is A it kind of makes sense... looking back "reforms must be demanded by consumers" is only really a sub-conclusion.. The overall conclusion is: [once reform is demanded by consumers] "academically underachieving schools will be forced to improve their academic offerings" ---> the improvement is the key..

The correct answer upon negation clearly weakens the conclusion. my only issue is that that OA treats the parents as "consumers" as well, while D, rightly treats the children as consumers. But D doesn't talk about the 'improvement' aspect so I guess in that sense it is weak... since the overall conclusion is about improvement in acad offerings choosing b/w the 2 you can say A is the answer

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by stormier » Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:16 am

gmat1011 wrote:it cannot be E. One doesn't have to assume ALL offerings will be improved; perfection is not what the stem is after where the conclusion is consumers must demand reform and doing so would compel underachieving school to "improve" acad offerings... it doesn't say ALL acd offerings... it could just be an improvement in 5% or 2% of the offerings.... The assumption need not be for ALL.

The OA on the LSAT forum for this is A it kind of makes sense... looking back "reforms must be demanded by consumers" is only really a sub-conclusion.. The overall conclusion is: [once reform is demanded by consumers] "academically underachieving schools will be forced to improve their academic offerings" ---> the improvement is the key..

The correct answer upon negation clearly weakens the conclusion. my only issue is that that OA treats the parents as "consumers" as well, while D, rightly treats the children as consumers. But D doesn't talk about the 'improvement' aspect so I guess in that sense it is weak... since the overall conclusion is about improvement in acad offerings choosing b/w the 2 you can say A is the answer

I think, "to attract students" and NOT "to attract parents" are the key words, implying that students will have to make a judgement on the choice of schools. So, parents have to pay to a school of student's choice.

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by mundasingh123 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:57 am

stormier wrote:
gmat1011 wrote:it cannot be E. One doesn't have to assume ALL offerings will be improved; perfection is not what the stem is after where the conclusion is consumers must demand reform and doing so would compel underachieving school to "improve" acad offerings... it doesn't say ALL acd offerings... it could just be an improvement in 5% or 2% of the offerings.... The assumption need not be for ALL.

The OA on the LSAT forum for this is A it kind of makes sense... looking back "reforms must be demanded by consumers" is only really a sub-conclusion.. The overall conclusion is: [once reform is demanded by consumers] "academically underachieving schools will be forced to improve their academic offerings" ---> the improvement is the key..

I think, "to attract students" and NOT "to attract parents" are the key words, implying that students will have to make a judgement on the choice of schools. So, parents have to pay to a school of student's choice.
Guys,
D talks only about recognitiona and not consumption.Consumption is different.
We all look to others for approval,opinions and suggestions.So what if the students are unable to recognize, They can always ask others for suggestions as to which school is worth going to.I think A would suffice as the correct answer

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