I worked as a bank teller full-time for 3 years and 7 months while studying for my undergraduate degree. After graduating in December 2009, I was hired to work as an Analyst for another company, which I still work for currently (going on 9 months now). I have a total of 4 years and 4 months of full-time work exp.
My question is: Does the first full-time job as a teller count as work experience to admissions committees? Or does the work exp need to be exclusively after finishing the undergrad degree?
Im hoping to apply to some top schools next Fall (i.e. Johnson, Columbia, Darden, Keenan-Flagler) Someone please help me by replying.
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I'm not sure about all of the schools you are interested in, but here is what I found on Kenan-Flagler's FAQ:
AOnly full-time, permanent positions count towards the two-year minimum work requirement. Applicants' initiative in landing internships and the experiences gained in these assignments are certainly considered when we evaluate your overall package. While we are aware that many international applicants work full time while attending university, we prefer that they also present a minimum of two years of work experience after completing the first degree.
I know this says international applicants, but I am sure the same applies for US applicants.
Here is some additional info from Kenan-Flagler:
Q: If I have less than two years of full-time work experience, will my application be considered?
A: We review every application we receive, regardless of the amount of work experience. But applicants with less than two years of experience are not likely to be competitive in comparison to other candidates at UNC Kenan-Flagler.
Q: I worked full-time before I received my college degree. Will you consider that work experience?
A: Your full-time work before you earned a bachelor's degree can be considered. The quality of work experience is as significant as the quantity. The Admissions Committee will evaluate the degree and progression of your responsibility, supervisory roles and the managerial promise of that work.
AOnly full-time, permanent positions count towards the two-year minimum work requirement. Applicants' initiative in landing internships and the experiences gained in these assignments are certainly considered when we evaluate your overall package. While we are aware that many international applicants work full time while attending university, we prefer that they also present a minimum of two years of work experience after completing the first degree.
I know this says international applicants, but I am sure the same applies for US applicants.
Here is some additional info from Kenan-Flagler:
Q: If I have less than two years of full-time work experience, will my application be considered?
A: We review every application we receive, regardless of the amount of work experience. But applicants with less than two years of experience are not likely to be competitive in comparison to other candidates at UNC Kenan-Flagler.
Q: I worked full-time before I received my college degree. Will you consider that work experience?
A: Your full-time work before you earned a bachelor's degree can be considered. The quality of work experience is as significant as the quantity. The Admissions Committee will evaluate the degree and progression of your responsibility, supervisory roles and the managerial promise of that work.
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Thanks, dmateer. That actually helped out a lot. Now I know its more competitive at UNC with regards to work experience. I guess I'll have to look at the FAQ's of my other prospective schools.
If anyone else has any information on this, please help.
If anyone else has any information on this, please help.
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It appears every school handles this differently. I just recently obtained my bachelor's degree, going to school at night while working full-time (work actually paid for my degree). I have almost seven years of full-time management-level work... but two months of post-graduate work. I actually hired interns from the college I was attending, while going to school there full-time.
I contacted a few schools regarding the "post-graduate work" requirements, and this is what I have heard:
Cambridge:
-They were the most specific in saying that they wanted "post-graduate" work. I e-mailed them. They told me not to apply.
Kellogg:
-They say they wanted "post-graduate" work as well, but, upon contacting them, they told me to include my special circumstances in the Additional Information.
BU:
-They said they would count all my work experience, despite my "unusual" circumstances.
The other schools I am applying to Wharton, Harvard, and Yale, appear to be more interested in the quality of work than the time period. Harvard actually seems to be going younger in general. I did not contact them, although I have included a few sentences about it during my "Additional Information" essays.
Sorry I don't have more information on your specific schools, but hopefully this helped!
I contacted a few schools regarding the "post-graduate work" requirements, and this is what I have heard:
Cambridge:
-They were the most specific in saying that they wanted "post-graduate" work. I e-mailed them. They told me not to apply.
Kellogg:
-They say they wanted "post-graduate" work as well, but, upon contacting them, they told me to include my special circumstances in the Additional Information.
BU:
-They said they would count all my work experience, despite my "unusual" circumstances.
The other schools I am applying to Wharton, Harvard, and Yale, appear to be more interested in the quality of work than the time period. Harvard actually seems to be going younger in general. I did not contact them, although I have included a few sentences about it during my "Additional Information" essays.
Sorry I don't have more information on your specific schools, but hopefully this helped!
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