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slowing the growth or damaging

by gmat740 » Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:24 pm
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There is no consensus on what role, if any, is played by acid rain in slowing the growth or damaging forests in the eastern United States.

(A) slowing the growth or damaging
(B) the damage or the slowing of the growth of
(C) the damage to or the slowness of the growth of
(D) damaged or slowed growth of
(E) damaging or slowing the growth of

Why is OA E better than A

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Re: slowing the growth or damaging

by BlindVision » Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:50 pm
gmat740 wrote:856
There is no consensus on what role, if any, is played by acid rain in slowing the growth or damaging forests in the eastern United States.

(A) slowing the growth or damaging
(B) the damage or the slowing of the growth of
(C) the damage to or the slowness of the growth of
(D) damaged or slowed growth of
(E) damaging or slowing the growth of

Why is OA E better than A
For these types with OR in them, I read them this way...

Choice "A": what role, if any, is played by acid rain in : slowing the growth forests in the eastern United States. OR what role, if any, is played by acid rain in : damaging forests in the eastern United States.

Answer "E": what role, if any, is played by acid rain in : damaging forests in the eastern United States. OR what role, if any, is played by acid rain in : slowing the growth of forests in the eastern United States.

"E" clearly looks correct from this perspective.
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by goelmohit2002 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:22 am
Can someone please explain why "D" is wrong...

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by chintanjadwani » Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:37 am
read the answer choice ''d '' by removing the OR part and u'll get the idea...

played by acid rain in the damaged growth of forests ...

no the growth of forests is not damaged, infact the rain is damaging it.

so D changes the meaning of the sentence...

hope it helps Mohit.. :)

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by goelmohit2002 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:11 pm
chintanjadwani wrote:read the answer choice ''d '' by removing the OR part and u'll get the idea...

played by acid rain in the damaged growth of forests ...

no the growth of forests is not damaged, infact the rain is damaging it.

so D changes the meaning of the sentence...

hope it helps Mohit.. :)
Thanks. But why the same is not the case with "E" ?

Damanging the growth of forests...

why in "E" we say damaging forests ?

Basically why damaged modifies growth in "D"...

But damaging modifies forests in "E"....

Please tell what I am missing here.

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Re: slowing the growth or damaging

by kidcorpo » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:31 pm
gmat740 wrote:856
There is no consensus on what role, if any, is played by acid rain in slowing the growth or damaging forests in the eastern United States.

(A) slowing the growth or damaging
(B) the damage or the slowing of the growth of
(C) the damage to or the slowness of the growth of
(D) damaged or slowed growth of
(E) damaging or slowing the growth of

Why is OA E better than A
A implies that we are slowing either the growth OR damage of the forests. In other words, A allows the sentence to read as slowing growth or slowing damage. Slowing damage doesn't make sense.

E allows the sentence to be read as either damaging the forest or slowing the growth of the forest; not slowing the damage of the forest.

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by Stacey Koprince » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:36 pm
Received a PM asking me to respond. I don't see the author listed for this problem. If you'd like my take, please cite the author and then I'll be happy to add my 2 cents!
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by goelmohit2002 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:30 pm
Stacey Koprince wrote:Received a PM asking me to respond. I don't see the author listed for this problem. If you'd like my take, please cite the author and then I'll be happy to add my 2 cents!
Hi Stacey,

Above question is Q#53 of OG-10.

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by vishalogy » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:39 pm
I think we can rule out "D" because it changes the tense - "damaged", "slowed" not consistent with "is". Besides, the past tense changes the meaning and reflects that the damage was done in the past and no new damage is being done now.
If we separate the parallel elements, A - reads:
" is played by acid rain in slowing the growth forests or damaging forests" - OF is missing
E reads:
" is played by acid rain in damaging forests or slowing the growth of forests"

E with the preposition "of" sounds better.
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by Stacey Koprince » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:21 pm
vishalogy's got it. We've got parallel elements, so the sentence should be able to be constructed two separate ways, once with each parallel element independently. We can't say "slowing the growth forests," as A does.

Someone also had a question about D. Try it again:
"what role is played by acid rain in damaged forests"
Are we talking about forests that are already damaged and then the acid rain comes along? Or are we talking about an action - acid rain comes along and damages the forests? It's the latter, so D doesn't work.
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by goelmohit2002 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:31 pm
Stacey Koprince wrote: Someone also had a question about D. Try it again:
"what role is played by acid rain in damaged forests"
Are we talking about forests that are already damaged and then the acid rain comes along? Or are we talking about an action - acid rain comes along and damages the forests? It's the latter, so D doesn't work.
Hi Stacey,

But only reason that OG gives for kicking out D is.... "Choice D also changes the meaning of the sentence by making both damaged and slowed refer to growth."

Can you please help understand how the above problem is there in D and not in E ?

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by Stacey Koprince » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:20 am
Oh, I see how they explained it. Yes, you could read it that way too (and, grammatically, you have to, actually), because "damaged" and "slowed" are parallel.

I was reading it based upon what I knew the meaning should be, logically. The original sentence is trying to discuss two possible effects of acid rain: slowing the growth of forests and damaging those same forests.

D says:
what role is played by acid rain in [damaged or slowed] growth of forests.

or = parallelism signal
the two -ed words are parallel and function as adjectives; they apply equally to the next noun (growth):
what role is played by acid rain in damaged growth
what role is played by acid rain in slowed growth

Now, because of the parallelism, I have "damaged growth" but the original sentence didn't say the growth was damaged. It just said the forests were damaged. (Well, potentially damaged - that's the debate, of course.)

(Note: and if you wanted to read it as "damaged" applies to forests, then you'd have "what role is played by acid rain in damaged forests" - which is also wrong, as I noted before. Either way, it's wrong. :))

In E, we've got:
what role is played by acid rain in [damaging or slowing the growth of] forests.

or = parallelism signal
the two -ed words are parallel and function as nouns this time (gerunds); they each apply equally to the rest of the sentence:
what role is played by acid rain in damaging forests
what role is played by acid rain in slowing <the growth of> forests

Now, you're actually describing the actions potentially taking place: damaging and slowing. "the growth of" is just extra modifying info. Slowing what? Slowing the growth.
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by goelmohit2002 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:48 am
Thanks a lot Stacey for the awesome reply!!

Can you please look in one small related parallelism doubt.....at the following thread and share your opinion on the thread...(as over on that thread we fellow btg members are not able to come to conclusion why "it" is not required in one of the options)

https://www.beatthegmat.com/pyramids-of- ... tml#176296

Probably i suppose it has something to do with the rule that without comma + and has the same subject as of the clause before and....

But I am not so sure about this rule and its usage....can you please correct me if I am wrong and tell if there is anything more to it....

Many thanks in Advance.
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by catherineB » Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:49 pm
Can someone please explain why "C" is wrong?

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by Stacey Koprince » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:07 pm
C: the official explanation would probably say something like "the slowness of the growth of" is awkward. It's also the case that "slowness" changes the original meaning. The original meaning is about slowing growth - think, there's a certain growth rate, and that rate is declining over time.

"Slowness of the growth" just means something is slow to grow in general. It doesn't mean that the rate of growth is declining over time.
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