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Thank you, Rich and David, for taking time to answer my questions. Your advice and insight have been invaluable.

I think I will brush up on my quant and give the GMAT another go. Probably work at it by myself for a week or two and see how things play out, then decide if I will hire a tutor. After my retake, I will probably revisit the idea of hiring an admissions consultant, I think I still have time before needing a consultant (plus, they're expensive!!!)

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This was my gut feeling. I felt like admissions might consider 700+and Q45+ as a different 'level' of candidate. It would be extremely disappointing if I wasn't even considered because I didn't get into the magical '700 Club'.
Agreed. Just know that admissions isn't quite that binary. Your 690 would hardly disqualify you from consideration. Check out the stats for Haas: https://mba.haas.berkeley.edu/admissions/class-profile.html

The middle 80% for GMAT scores is 680-750. So you're in that range, but you're on the low end of it, which means that if you're going to be admitted with a 690, you need to stand out in other aspects of your application. Generally, it's just good to be in the meaty part of that range to maximize your chances of getting in to a competitive program.

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Thank you, Rich and David, for taking time to answer my questions. Your advice and insight have been invaluable.

I think I will brush up on my quant and give the GMAT another go. Probably work at it by myself for a week or two and see how things play out, then decide if I will hire a tutor. After my retake, I will probably revisit the idea of hiring an admissions consultant, I think I still have time before needing a consultant (plus, they're expensive!!!)

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Hi Dr. Raccoon,

Many Test Takers spend 3 months (or more) of consistent study time before they hit their 'peak' scores. This is meant to say that you might very well score higher if you continue to study beyond the 6 weeks that you invested so far. In addition, there's certainly no harm in retesting - you can always cancel a score if you're not happy with it. The Q44 means that you performed well on most of the 'math' questions that you faced, but you would have made some little mistakes throughout the section and you missed out on lots of 'strategy-based' points. To score at a much higher level in the Quant section, you would be best served by shifting your focus to learning/practicing Quant Tactics and patterns.

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Thanks David and Rich. Your responses are really helpful!

In response to David:
This was my gut feeling. I felt like admissions might consider 700+and Q45+ as a different 'level' of candidate. It would be extremely disappointing if I wasn't even considered because I didn't get into the magical '700 Club'.

In response to Rich:
I will definitely consider talking to a Admissions Expert about my overall profile; seems like most applicants these days (I think the stat I saw was 40-50%?) hire one.
1) I studied for about 6 weeks, 4-5 hours per day.
2) I took the full CAT every time, Essay and IR sections included. Although, the 6 GMATPrep test have repeated essays, so I've written about the same prompt multiple times.
3) A little bit. I breezed through the first couple questions confidently, stockpiling some time but I find that I burnt through those spare minutes really quickly once I hit questions 25+ and end up rushing/guessing on the last 3 questions.

Overall though, would I be mistaken to say that a retake could NOT hurt my chances? If I end up scoring lower, I can always cancel; and if I score higher, then great. Is this a good way of looking at it?

Thanks!

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