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RC - Animal Treatment

by goelmohit2002 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:51 am
Hi All,

Following is passage from Manhattan RC guide. Can someone please help clear the following doubt ?

Q) What is the purpose of the last line in the 3rd paragraph(Indeed, animals.....age) ?
a) "Provide support" to the idea that industrialization and urbanization lead to love for animals.
b) "Implication" of the idea that that industrialization and urbanization lead to love for animals.

[spoiler]OA = A.

Can someone please tell what is the difference between the two above and why the A is better than B ?

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Over the course of the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries, educated Britons came to embrace the notion that animals must be treated humanely. By 1822 Parliament had outlawed certain forms of cruelty to domestic animals, and by 1824 reformers had founded the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.

This growth in humane feelings was part of a broader embrace of compassionate ideals. One of the great movements of the age was abolitionalism, but there were many other such causes. In 1785 a Society for the Relief of Persons Imprisoned for Small Sums persuaded Parliament to limit that archaic punishment. There was also a Society for Bettering the condition of the poor, founded in 1796. A Philanthrophic Society founded in 1788 provided for abandoned children. Charity schools, schools of midwifery, and hospitals for the poor were being endowed. This growth in concern for human suffering encouraged reformers to reject animal suffering as well.

Industrialization and the growth of towns also contributed to the increase in concern for animals. The people who protested against cruelty to animals tended to be city folk who thought of animals as pets rather than as livestock. It was not just animals, but all of nature, that came to be seen differently as Britain industrialised. Nature was no longer a menacing force that had to be subdued, for society's "victory" over wilderness was conspicuous everywhere. A new sensibility, which viewed animals and wild nature as things to be respected and preserved, replaced the old adversarial relationship. Indeed, animals were to some extent romanticised as emblems of a bucolic, pre-industrial age.

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by kyabe » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:09 am
The word implication conveys that there should be some result of that idea. Or it means that animal love was the result of "industrialization and urbanization"

Rather as A states "support", a more suitable word to describe the effect of the "industrialization and urbanization"

Makes sense??

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by DanaJ » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:22 am
"Providing support" is equivalent to the strengthening statements in CR, while "Implication" is equivalent to an inference in CR. So, while A states that the last sentence strengthens/adds to the passage, B states that the last sentence is actually something that is a result of the industrialization.

A does make more sense, because the idea of a romantic, idealized view of pre-industrial life is not highlighed anywhere in the passage, which seems more concerned with historical dates than with perceptions. Nothing actually touches the topic, so I guess this is the reason why this is the answer.

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by goelmohit2002 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:35 am
kyabe wrote:Or it means that animal love was the result of "industrialization and urbanization"
Hi Kyabe,

Thanks. But what is the problem in above interpretation (i.e. implication)?

industrialization and urbanization => Animal Love

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by kyabe » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:51 am
Let me present an analogy..

After I turned 10, I started playing hockey..

So can u say that playing hockey was implication of me turning 10??

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by goelmohit2002 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:55 am
kyabe wrote:Let me present an analogy..

After I turned 10, I started playing hockey..

So can u say that playing hockey was implication of me turning 10??
Hi Kyabe,

If in general it happens at this particular age in a society then i guess it is implication....for e.g.

After my cousin turned 3, he started going to school.

Kindly tell is it not the implication(Age 3 => going to school) ?

Please tell what I am missing here.

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by kyabe » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:57 am
I dont think thats an implication.. Coz nobody is forcing anybody or to say it otherwise that is not the automatic outcome..

Thats just an observation coz many child does not go to school... Thats not at all an implication

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by scoobydooby » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:56 pm
the 3rd para expressly states that the industrialization and urbanization led to love for animals. (1st line).
implication (act of implying) means something that can be inferred or something that is understood but is not clearly stated.

here, the idea that industrialization + urbanization=> love for animals is stated in the passage itself. so the last line is not an inference. so A is better than B.

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by goelmohit2002 » Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:25 am
scoobydooby wrote:the 3rd para expressly states that the industrialization and urbanization led to love for animals. (1st line).
implication (act of implying) means something that can be inferred or something that is understood but is not clearly stated.

here, the idea that industrialization + urbanization=> love for animals is stated in the passage itself. so the last line is not an inference. so A is better than B.
Thanks. Can you please give one example of stuff...which could have been example of implication of the idea in the para 3 above?

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by Spring2009 » Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:03 pm
kyabe wrote:Let me present an analogy..

After I turned 10, I started playing hockey..

So can u say that playing hockey was implication of me turning 10??
I don't think this statement is an analogy. It's not an implication, but it isn't a support either.
Can you say that "playing hockey" supported that you turned 10? Absolutely not, anyone can started playing hockey at different ages, so who knew that you turned 10 at that time.

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by Stacey Koprince » Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:22 am
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Dana provides a good explanation above.

If X "provides support for" Y, then we're saying that X comes first and is used to make the case for Y.

If X is an "implication of" Y, then we're saying that Y comes first, and X happens or exists as a result of Y.

So, what are we talking about here? In the first case, we'd be saying that X is one piece of evidence that helps lead to Y. Animals were romanticized (by people on the more urban side of life), so that helped lead to concern and compassion for animals.

In the second case, we'd be saying, the urbanization had already led to concern and compassion for animals, and as a result of that, the animals were then romanticized (by urbanites).

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