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Is y>0?

by Max@Math Revolution » Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:43 pm
Is y>0?
1) x^2<y^2
2) x+y=1

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by 800_or_bust » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:51 am
Max@Math Revolution wrote:Is y>0?
1) x^2<y^2
2) x+y=1

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(1) Not sufficient. This implies only that the absolute value of y is greater than the absolute value of x - it tells us nothing about the sign of either variable. This also implies y cannot be zero, because the inequality could not hold if y were zero (at best y^2 would be equal to x^2, it could never be greater than x^2).

(2) Not sufficient. x and y can be any value, positive, negative, or zero, as long as the sum of x and y is 1.

Combined (1) & (2). From statement (2) we know that at least one of x or y must be positive in order for their sum to be 1. From statement (1), we know that the absolute value of y must be larger than the absolute value of x (and we also proved y cannot be zero). With that said, if x is negative, y must be positive. If x is zero, y must be positive (namely, 1). Most importantly, if x is positive, y still cannot be negative - because if y were negative, we would be adding a negative number with a greater absolute value to a positive number of lesser absolute value, and the sum would have to be negative. Therefore, in all possible cases, y must be positive. Hence, we can say with certainty that y > 0. So the answer must be C.
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by GMATGuruNY » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:06 am
Max@Math Revolution wrote:Is y>0?
1) x^2<y^2
2) x+y=1
Statement 1:
It's possible that x=0 and y=1, in which case y>0.
It's possible that x=0 and y=-1, in which case y<0.
INSUFFICIENT.

Statement 2:
It's possible that x=0 and y=1, in which case y>0.
It's possible that x=2 and y=-1, in which case y<0.
INSUFFICIENT.

Statements combined:
Statement 2 implies that x = 1-y.

Substituting x = 1-y into x² < y², we get:
(1-y)² < y²
1² + y² - 2y < y²
1 < 2y
1/2 < y
y > 1/2.

Thus, y > 0.
SUFFICIENT.

The correct answer is C.
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by Max@Math Revolution » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:16 pm
There are 2 variables in the original condition, Hence, since we need 2 equations, the correct answer is C.

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by GMATGuruNY » Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:12 am
There are 2 variables in the original condition, Hence, since we need 2 equations, the correct answer is C.
The line of reasoning is typically valid for a DS with two distinct linear equations and two variables.
But if a DS problem is constrained to positive integers, one equation with two variables can be sufficient: https://www.beatthegmat.com/to-find-the- ... 73004.html).
Here, Statement 1 is not an equation but an inequality -- and a NONLINEAR inequality at that.
As a result, we cannot conclude that the two statements are sufficient simply because they offer two variables and two distinct relationships with these variables.
Consider the following variation:
Is y > 0?

1) x² > y²
2) x+y = 1
Statement 1:
It's possible that x=2 and y=1, in which case y>0.
It's possible that x=2 and y=-1, in which case y<0.
INSUFFICIENT.

Statement 2:
It's possible that x=0 and y=1, in which case y>0.
It's possible that x=2 and y=-1, in which case y<0.
INSUFFICIENT.

Statements combined:
Statement 2 implies that x = 1-y.

Substituting x = 1-y into x² > y², we get:
(1-y)² > y²
1² + y² - 2y > y²
1 > 2y
1/2 > y
y < 1/2.

If y=1/4, then the answer to the question stem is YES.
If y=-1, then the answer to the question stem is NO.
INSUFFICIENT.

Virtually the same set of facts, yet the correct answer is not C but E.
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