Has/Have, Who/That

anupam · Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:39 pm Post subject: Has/Have, Who/That

He is one of the students who has graduated
He is one of the students who have graduated
One of the students has/have graduated

Which of these is correct ?? pls explain

also... if you can explain me the usage of the noun invitation !!

at the invitation of
an invitation that came from etc....

Thanks

jayofbay · Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject: See Erics flashcards

the answer is "have". one of the <plural> followed by <plural> verb.

anupam · Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:44 am Post subject:

But is the following incorrect ??

one of my friends is walking

one of my friends are walking

800guy · Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Has/ Have

anupam · Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject:

he is one of those students who have graduated !!

This is what i read in one of the books !!
All this is getting a bit confusing...
which one is correct for GMAT

800guy · Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:20 pm Post subject:

800guy · Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:32 pm Post subject: found the answer!!

i was wrong! i found the answer to your question:

One of the + PLURAL NOUN + that/who/ + PLURAL VERB

“He is one of the persons who make money.”
“This is one of the cars that run on hydrogen.”

look at page 8 of beatthegmat's amazing FLASHCARDS: http://www.beatthegmat.com/viewtopic.php?t=32

aim-wsc · Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:18 am Post subject:

well well well
Shocked

Take a sentence: Johny is one my friends.
dissect it: I have many friends & Johny is one of them

therefore friends [plural]

now if i extend it : Johny is one of my friends who suck at SC.
dissect it: used suck [plural] because I have any friends who suck at SC

ThankYou.

Now
take another sentence: One of my friends plays guitar.
dissect: I have only ONE friend who plays guitar.
therefore singular.

now if i change it: Some of my friends play guitar.

Note that who/what is involved with verbs... in first examples you have group of friends and in latter ones you directly addressed to the ONE.

In sentence correcting Cutting the crap is the key. Cool

OK heres the correct sentences:

He is one of the students who have graduated
One of my friends is walking

aim-wsc · Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:54 am Post subject: Re: Has/ Have

Rishabh · Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:06 am Post subject:

Hi,

What I am able to make out from the stuff posted by 800Guy is that in the general rule..

One of the + PLURAL NOUN + that/who/ + PLURAL VERB

is that whatever is the structure of the preceding noun, the verb should be of the same structure..
i.e. Singular - Singular
Plural - Plural

Is it ?

and if it is - then the sentences given by aim-wsc should be

He is one of the students who have graduated
One of my friend is walking

and not

He is one of the students who have graduated
One of my friends is walking

Please clarify !!

aim-wsc · Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:40 am Post subject:

& that proves i suck when it comes to explaning the stuff.

OK
lets cut the crap.

One of the + PLURAL NOUN + that/who/ + PLURAL VERB

THIS RULE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT NO issues.
THEREFORE THE FIRST sentence IS CORRECT.

but note the difference between two sentence
2nd sentence:
One of my friends is walking
NOTE THAT WHO/ THAT IS MISSING.

I advise you people do not just follow the available material.
:think:////

think! how & why such a small word "who or that" made difference.

note that jayofbay was right.
also 800guy was right @post #4 when he wrote

Quote:

Thus: "he is one...who has graduated"

if err he removes those dots... hee hee
again anupam was right @ post#5

but then what went wrong??
both jayofbay & 800guy couldnt address two different types of sentences separately.

i hope that helps

i wont provide readymade material.
thinking process will evolve by time & thats the way you can excel..
all the best.
& lastly
Dear members,
do not become Jack

hea ha yeah thats right thats my fictional character! Enjoy the story and feedback!!

aim-wsc · Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:46 am Post subject: change the name of the thread

Dear administrator,
would you please change the name of this thread from has/ haveto who/ that

i hope you agree.

beatthegmat · Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject:

aim-wsc · Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject:

i dont hv to repeat this. Smile

still to clear the confusion:

one of my friends is walking, while others are standing still.