I have been using the MGMAT books some to study with, but I have found the diagramming strategy to be less productive for me than actually just reading the passage. It is too choppy, reading then writing, and I am losing comprehension in relating the sentences together. What I have found this far is to read it once and understand it then go back and diagram the passage.
What methods do you suggest or do you use?
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The best suggestion in RC Ive read and I am now employing in my practice is read the question first, write down what they are looking for then go into the pasage and identify the conclusion look at the supporting premises and answer the question.
I know it is more complicated than those simple tips but those seem to help.
I know it is more complicated than those simple tips but those seem to help.
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I am doing the same, I read the question first now. It works much better.
Then I try to keep each option separately and be extra careful with the "not" before a negative answer that would make the answer positive, for example, "Mary will not disapprove something" (so Mary will indeed approve)
Then I try to keep each option separately and be extra careful with the "not" before a negative answer that would make the answer positive, for example, "Mary will not disapprove something" (so Mary will indeed approve)
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FYI We published new CR and RC books at the beginning of May that significantly revamp / streamline the diagramming / sketching techniques.
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Hi Stacey,
I have just completed 40 questions using the diagramming technique (using books I just purchased i.e. latest ones) and it took me about 3min/question.
The diagramming technique seems to take more time than we have per question. Is there something I can do to improve my time? I have also heard that reading the question first and then going to the argument is better......
I have just completed 40 questions using the diagramming technique (using books I just purchased i.e. latest ones) and it took me about 3min/question.
The diagramming technique seems to take more time than we have per question. Is there something I can do to improve my time? I have also heard that reading the question first and then going to the argument is better......
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One key thing to remember about the diagramming technique: it's not about taking notes. Most people intuitively think of it as a way to take quick notes, but the notes are not your focus. Your focus is analyzing the argument while you're reading it for the first time; the diagramming technique is simply a method to use to keep your brain on its task. Your ultimate goal is to "crack" the argument (in much the same way we talk about "cracking a case" in business school).
Pretend you have a limited amount of ink - ask yourself, is this important enough to the overall argument to merit writing down? Also, use EXTREME shorthand - you're taking notes just for yourself and you only have to be able to read the notes for the next minute or two; then you can forget all about them. My notes are so abbreviated that most other people probably couldn't read them and, if I had to read them myself a couple of hours later, I probably wouldn't know what I was talking about.
And practice writing notes without taking your eyes off the argument. The constant up-and-down look actually interrupts you quite a bit.
Go back and look at the diagrams for the ones you did and figure out (now that you know what the answer is) what you really needed to write down and what you really didn't need to write down. If you do that enough, it will help you get a feel for the kind of language that signals something important vs. the stuff that tends to end up being extraneous. That will also help you find the most important info the first time you read a new argument.
Finally, remember that no technique will work for 100% of the population. If some technique really isn't working for you, drop it. This one does take a while (typically 2-3 weeks) to get used to, but if it's still not working for you after that, then don't use it.
Pretend you have a limited amount of ink - ask yourself, is this important enough to the overall argument to merit writing down? Also, use EXTREME shorthand - you're taking notes just for yourself and you only have to be able to read the notes for the next minute or two; then you can forget all about them. My notes are so abbreviated that most other people probably couldn't read them and, if I had to read them myself a couple of hours later, I probably wouldn't know what I was talking about.
And practice writing notes without taking your eyes off the argument. The constant up-and-down look actually interrupts you quite a bit.
Go back and look at the diagrams for the ones you did and figure out (now that you know what the answer is) what you really needed to write down and what you really didn't need to write down. If you do that enough, it will help you get a feel for the kind of language that signals something important vs. the stuff that tends to end up being extraneous. That will also help you find the most important info the first time you read a new argument.
Finally, remember that no technique will work for 100% of the population. If some technique really isn't working for you, drop it. This one does take a while (typically 2-3 weeks) to get used to, but if it's still not working for you after that, then don't use it.
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Hi Stacey,
Sorry that was me who posted the last one, forgot to log in.
I'll copy the post to the RC discussion so that it stays in the proper area.
Sorry that was me who posted the last one, forgot to log in.
I'll copy the post to the RC discussion so that it stays in the proper area.
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Basically the same for RC. Also be aware that, for longer passages, the topic sentence for each paragraph is typically the first sentence, occasionally the second sentence. It doesn't matter if you get all the nitty-gritty detail the first time through (in fact, DON'T get all that nitty-gritty detail) but you have to get the big picture - what's going on overall in the passage and how does each individual paragraph fit into that.
Remember that for any specific details (a) you might not get a question on it, (b) you won't remember every detail after the first read-through anyway, and (c) you'll go back into the passage to review for any specific detail question you do get.
The upshot of that is: don't worry about the specific details on your first read-through. Only worry about the high-level stuff.
Remember that for any specific details (a) you might not get a question on it, (b) you won't remember every detail after the first read-through anyway, and (c) you'll go back into the passage to review for any specific detail question you do get.
The upshot of that is: don't worry about the specific details on your first read-through. Only worry about the high-level stuff.
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