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by buoyant » Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:22 pm
The length of the median BD in triangle ABC is 12 centimeters, what is the length of side AC?

(1) ABC is an isosceles triangle
(2) AC^2 = AB^2 + BC^2

[spoiler]OA: B[/spoiler]

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by MartyMurray » Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:56 pm
buoyant wrote:The length of the median BD in triangle ABC is 12 centimeters, what is the length of side AC?

(1) ABC is an isosceles triangle
(2) AC^2 = AB^2 + BC^2

[spoiler]OA: B[/spoiler]
Well I messed around with this.

First I took care of Statement 1. For one thing it does not say which of the sides are equal, or much else. So we can't figure out the relationship between the length of the median and that of the side AC.

Insufficient

Statement 2 is interesting. From the equation we can tell that ABC is a right triangle with AC as the hypotenuse, because the squares of the lengths of the other two sides add up to the square of AC. Then I played with some different triangles. If ABC is a 45-90-45 triangle, the median extends down and creates two new 45-45-90 triangles. The two equal sides of each of these triangles are the median and half of AC. So if the length of the median is half of AC, then AC = 2 * 12 = 24.

Alternatively if ABC is a 30-90-60 triangle, the median will form an equilateral, 60-60-60, triangle and a 30-120-30 triangle. Hmm. So once again the median is half of AC and so AC is 24.

So I am guessing that with some more math we will discover that a median extending from the right angle of a right triangle always forms two isosceles triangles with one of the two equal sides of each triangle being the median and the other being half the hypotenuse.

Yup, I looked it up, and by inscribing the right triangle in a circle we can show that the median is always half the hypotenuse.

So Statement 2 is sufficient and the answer is B.

Having said that, I somehow doubt having to prove a geometric rule in this way would be necessary to answer a two minute GMAT question, and further, I don't believe this rule is part of the body of knowledge one is expected to know in order to have the basis for answering GMAT questions.

In other words, while that rule might occasionally be useful in answering a GMAT question, one does not need to know it or derive it to solve GMAT problems.

Maybe someone else will have a different opinion, but that's my take. In a way it's a cool question, and maybe something to learn from, but that's it.
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by GMATGuruNY » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:14 am
buoyant wrote:The length of the median BD in triangle ABC is 12 centimeters, what is the length of side AC?

(1) ABC is an isosceles triangle
(2) AC² = AB² + BC²
This problem seems beyond the scope of the GMAT.

The MEDIAN of a triangle is a line drawn from a vertex to the MIDPOINT of the opposite side.

Statement 1: ABC is an isosceles triangle
Here, ∆ABC could take on many sizes.
Two examples:
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AC is short in the top triangle but long in the bottom triangle.
Implication:
The length of AC cannot be determined.
INSUFFICIENT.

Statement 2: AC² = AB² + BC²
Implication:
∆ABC is a RIGHT TRIANGLE, with AC as the hypotenuse.
Rule:
A median drawn to the hypotenuse of a right triangle forms TWO ISOSCELES TRIANGLES, as in the following figure:
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Thus, BD=AD=DC=12.
Thus, AC = AD+DC = 12+12 = 24.
SUFFICIENT.

The correct answer is B.

Another helpful rule:
The median of a triangle forms two triangles of EQUAL AREAS.
Thus, in statement 2, the area of ∆ABD is equal to the area of ∆BCD.
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by buoyant » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:18 pm
GMATGuruNY wrote:
buoyant wrote:The length of the median BD in triangle ABC is 12 centimeters, what is the length of side AC?

(1) ABC is an isosceles triangle
(2) AC² = AB² + BC²
This problem seems beyond the scope of the GMAT.

The MEDIAN of a triangle is a line drawn from a vertex to the MIDPOINT of the opposite side.

Statement 1: ABC is an isosceles triangle
Here, ∆ABC could take on many sizes.
Two examples:
Image
AC is short in the top triangle but long in the bottom triangle.
Implication:
The length of AC cannot be determined.
INSUFFICIENT.

Statement 2: AC² = AB² + BC²
Implication:
∆ABC is a RIGHT TRIANGLE, with AC as the hypotenuse.
Rule:
A median drawn to the hypotenuse of a right triangle forms TWO ISOSCELES TRIANGLES, as in the following figure:
Image
Thus, BD=AD=DC=12.
Thus, AC = AD+DC = 12+12 = 24.
SUFFICIENT.

The correct answer is B.

Another helpful rule:
The median of a triangle forms two triangles of EQUAL AREAS.
Thus, in statement 2, the area of ∆ABD is equal to the area of ∆BCD.
This concept is tested by DS119 in the OG13:
https://www.beatthegmat.com/data-suffici ... 85748.html
Hi Mitch,
can the median also be perpendicular bisector? is it the case here or is an unrelated concept altogether?

i used similar triangle concept to prove AC = 2*BD (assumed the median made 90 degree at the point of intersection at the base.

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by [email protected] » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:07 pm
Hi buoyant,

What is the source of this question?

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by GMATGuruNY » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:54 pm
Hi Mitch,
can the median also be perpendicular bisector? is it the case here or is an unrelated concept altogether?

i used similar triangle concept to prove AC = 2*BD (assumed the median made 90 degree at the point of intersection at the base.
Only in an ISOSCELES triangle can a median be a perpendicular bisector, as shown in my illustrations for Statement 1:
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Since statement 2 does not indicate that ∆ABC is isosceles, we cannot assume that median BD is a perpendicular bisector of AC.

A valid way to prove that Statement 2 is SUFFICIENT:
According to the prompt, median BD = 12.
According to statement 2, AC² = AB² + BC².

Since median BD extends from B to the MIDPOINT of opposite side AC, and statement 2 indicates that ∆ABC is a RIGHT TRIANGLE, the following figure is implied:
Image

If a right triangle is inscribed in a circle, the hypotenuse is a DIAMETER of the circle:
Image

Thus, if right triangle ABC -- along with median BD -- is inscribed in a circle, the following figure is yielded:
Image
Since hypotenuse AC is a diameter, and median BD bisects AC, D is the center of the circle.
Thus, BD, AD, and DC are all radii, implying that BD=AD=DC.
Since radius BD = 12, diameter AC = 24.
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by Matt@VeritasPrep » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:53 pm
buoyant wrote:Hi Mitch,
can the median also be perpendicular bisector? is it the case here or is an unrelated concept altogether?
Don't worry too much about perpendicular bisectors; perpendicular bisectors, angle bisectors, and medians are all crucial aspects of Euclidean geometry, but the GMAT never really tests them.

As an aside, the GMAT Club math tests are fun, but their questions are frequently too difficult for the GMAT or beyond its scope: they seem to me to be written by a bunch of Q50/51 scorers who are bored with the math that's actually on the GMAT.