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Having been named for a mythological

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Having been named for a mythological

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    Having been named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, the asteroid named Ida, in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, was discovered in 1884.

    A) Having been named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, the asteroid named Ida, in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, was discovered in 1884.

    B) Discovered in 1884, the asteroid Ida, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.

    C) In the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, the asteroid Ida, discovered in 1884 and named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter.

    D) The asteroid Ida, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter and discovered in 1884, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.

    E) Ida, an asteroid discovered in 1884 and which was named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter

    B

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    Post Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:36 am
    (A) This version is funny. At first it may look ok, but then you realize that Having been named ... the asteroid ... was discovered, implies that the asteroid was named before being discovered.

    Also, the named in named Ida is redundant, as that the asteroid was named has already been said.
    Simply saying "asteroid Ida" would be better.

    (B) This one flows logically by starting off with the discovery, going into the subject next, modifying the subject and then going into the predicate.

    (C) There is no main verb in this version, which therefore has no independent clause.

    (D) a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter and discovered in 1884 conveys that the nymph discovered in 1884.

    Also, the belt of asteroids to orbit the sun does not make sense in that it seems to imply that the belt of asteroids exists in order to orbit the sun.

    (E) This one repeats the to orbit the sun error.

    Also, there is a more subtle issue with the following modifier, an asteroid discovered in 1884 and which was named for a mythological nymph. If you cut out discovered in 1884, you can more easily see that an asteroid which was named for a mythological nymph actually requires that instead of which in order to correctly create the restrictive modifier that was named for a mythological nymph. That way you would have an asteroid that was named for a mythological nymph and the complete version, an asteroid discovered in 1884 and that was named for a mythological nymph.

    The correct answer is B.

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    Post Thu May 19, 2016 10:06 pm
    According to the meaning of the sentence, I believe the "discouver" should be the main verb but the choice B change it. Someone can correct me?

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    Hi,
    here's what the official solution says about answer A
    "A. Opening with a past perfect passive verb, Having been named, this version of the sentence illogically suggests that being named for a mythological nymph preceded the discovery of Ilda"

    Why Having been named is "past perfect passive"? The past perfect is formed by
    subject + had + past participle
    So the passive would be
    Subject + had + been + past participle

    In this case the past perfect passive would be "Had been named" and not "Having been named"

    Can someone please explain?

    Thanks

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    Post Sun May 28, 2017 12:19 pm
    raffairon wrote:
    Hi,
    here's what the official solution says about answer A
    "A. Opening with a past perfect passive verb, Having been named, this version of the sentence illogically suggests that being named for a mythological nymph preceded the discovery of Ilda"

    Why Having been named is "past perfect passive"? The past perfect is formed by
    subject + had + past participle
    So the passive would be
    Subject + had + been + past participle

    In this case the past perfect passive would be "Had been named" and not "Having been named"

    Can someone please explain?

    Thanks
    The official explanation is a little misleading, in that the sentence does not open with a simple verb, it opens with a past perfect passive PARTICIPLE.

    In case you are not clear about what participle is, I'll add that participle is a verb form that serves as a modifier modifying a noun or a clause and that takes a noun as its agent, the doer of the action expressed by the participle, or its receiver, the target of the action expressed by the participle.

    There are present participles, past participles, and past perfect participles, and this sentences begins with a past perfect participle.

    Present Participle:

    Naming - conveys that the naming occurred at the same time as the main action in the sentence.

    Example: Naming the planet after Ida, Jupiter recognized the nymph who had raised him.

    "Jupiter" is the agent of "naming".

    Past Participle:

    Named - conveys that the action described by the participle happened in the past.

    Example: Named after the dog in the movie, John's beagle Benji likes to play.

    "Benji" is the receiver of "named".

    The dog was named in the past and likes to play now.

    Past Perfect Participle:

    Having named - conveys that the action described by the participle happened before an action or event in the clause that follows the participle.

    Example: Having named the planet after the nymph Ida, the astronomer decided to tell his friends.

    So the astronomer,, the agent of "having named", named the planet and then told his friends.

    Part Perfect Passive Participle:

    Having been named - conveys that the agent of the participle was acted on before the event described in the main clause.

    Example: Having been named after a nymph, the planet Ida became a favorite of many young students.

    To be clear, the simple past participle conveys something very similar to what the past perfect passive participle conveys.

    Example: Named after a nymph, the planet Ida became a favorite of many young students.

    The difference between the meaning conveyed by the simple past participle and the past perfect passive participle is a subtle one.

    The simple past is focused on merely describing the receiver. In the above example, "the planet Ida", which is the receiver of "Named" is described as "Named after a nymph".

    The past perfect passive participle is used to clearly convey that the event described by the participle occurred before the event mentioned in the clause.

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