Considered Vs Considered to be

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Considered Vs Considered to be

by aaggar7 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:55 pm
What is the difference between the two and how to determine the correct usage.

Eg. They considered him a fool.

They considered him to be a fool.


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by aaggar7 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:00 am
Hello,Please please help me with my earlier post.I am still struggling with this concept.

I got another example:

The banana that contains high level of potassium and other important minerals are considered to be one of nature's healthiest fruits.

A. The banana that contains high level of potassium and other important minerals are considered to be
B. The banana, which contains high levels of potassium and other important minerals, is considered
C. The banana, which contain high levels of potassium and other important minerals, is considered to be
D. Bananas which contain high levels of potassium and other important minerals are considered
E. The banana, which contains high levels of potassium and other important minerals, is considered to be

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by radhika88 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:58 am
Hi,

"Consider" and "consider to be' are generally interchangeable in normal English. However, when it comes to GMAT, "considered to be" is redundant and if given a choice you must always choose "consider".

eg. The phrase " consider to be" is considered redundant on GMAT :D
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by radhika88 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:16 am
The correct answer choice should be D. Bananas which contain high levels of potassium and other important minerals are considered - correct use of "consider" and rightly marks essential modifier

A. The banana..ARE- plural form
B. The banana..healthiest FRUITS- incorrect
C. The banana..CONTAIN- plural form ; Considered to be- redundant
E. Considered to be- redundant

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by vivekchandrams » Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:01 am
Uhmmm... I don't think D is right. The use of 'which' without a 'comma' eliminates it.
B - The banana is considered one of the healthiest fruits. It's fine according to me. Please explain your answer
radhika88 wrote:The correct answer choice should be D. Bananas which contain high levels of potassium and other important minerals are considered - correct use of "consider" and rightly marks essential modifier

A. The banana..ARE- plural form
B. The banana..healthiest FRUITS- incorrect
C. The banana..CONTAIN- plural form ; Considered to be- redundant
E. Considered to be- redundant

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by radhika88 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:28 pm
Yup. I stand corrected. Momentarily forgot 'which' is usually non-restrictive and needs to be preceded by a comma. :(

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by rakeshd347 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:35 am
radhika88 wrote:Yup. I stand corrected. Momentarily forgot 'which' is usually non-restrictive and needs to be preceded by a comma. :(
Is "consider to be" correct idiom. I always thought its a wrong idiom in GMAT but RON says that it is correct.
https://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/idi ... t2758.html

Can someone please clarify this.

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by [email protected] » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:40 pm
Hi rakeshd347,

GMAT SCs tend to follow certain style "patterns"; one of those patterns is that, in general, if two answers APPEAR to be correct, then the shorter answer tends to be the correct one. Now, THAT rule is still based on the idea that the GRAMMAR is correct. If the grammar is incorrect, then it doesn't matter how long or short an answer is.

In the case of "considered" vs. "considered to be", either one is acceptable. The good news is that if this issue occurred on a GMAT SC, then there would be other grammar rules that you could use to determine which answer is correct. Ultimately, you won't be left with ONLY this rule to help you find the correct answer, so you shouldn't worry about it.

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by vinay1983 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:09 pm
rakeshd347 wrote:
radhika88 wrote:Yup. I stand corrected. Momentarily forgot 'which' is usually non-restrictive and needs to be preceded by a comma. :(
Is "consider to be" correct idiom. I always thought its a wrong idiom in GMAT but RON says that it is correct.
https://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/idi ... t2758.html

Can someone please clarify this.
Rakesh "consider to be" and "consider as" I think are incorrect but maybe "consider x to be y" is correct. Actually in the post you have linked Ron says "consider "x" to be "y" is correct. I am not sure about "consider to be" though. I still feel it is wrong.

Rich, don't you feel that there is a difference in meaning when these 2 are used "consider to be" and consider "x" to be "y"? I have my reservations
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by [email protected] » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:44 pm
Hi vinay1983,

Yes, I do think that the "style" of a sentence would dictate one option over another, but since you're describing two different examples that could be "correct" under certain circumstances, we would need the context of the sentence to know which one to use. The good news is that the GMAT will almost always provide the necessary "clues" to help you make the choice.

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by mathur2012 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:16 am
[email protected] wrote:Hi rakeshd347,

GMAT SCs tend to follow certain style "patterns"; one of those patterns is that, in general, if two answers APPEAR to be correct, then the shorter answer tends to be the correct one. Now, THAT rule is still based on the idea that the GRAMMAR is correct. If the grammar is incorrect, then it doesn't matter how long or short an answer is.

In the case of "considered" vs. "considered to be", either one is acceptable. The good news is that if this issue occurred on a GMAT SC, then there would be other grammar rules that you could use to determine which answer is correct. Ultimately, you won't be left with ONLY this rule to help you find the correct answer, so you shouldn't worry about it.

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Hi Rich , just landed on this forum after googling . I have a doubt regarding this sentence

Belgium chocolate is considered(A) / by many to be finer(B) / than any others in the world.(C)

I have to find out the error . After going through the post , it seems to me error is in B part as " to be" is redundant but Is the C part correct ? I guess it should be "any other" instead of "any others" . Please help