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emmision laws

by maihuna » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:25 pm
Though the law will require emissions testing of all diesel vehicles, from
tractor trailers to excursion buses, it will have no effect on sport utility
vehicles, almost all of which are gasoline powered, and will not be subjected
to emissions-control standards as stringent as they are for

diesel-powered vehicles.
A. powered, and will not be subjected to emissions-control standards as
stringent as they are for
B. powered, and therefore not subjected to emissions-control standards
that are as stringent as those of
C. powered and therefore not subject to emissions-control standards as
stringent as those for
D. powered, which are not subject to emissions-control standards as
stringent as they are for
E. powered and therefore they are not subject to emissions-control
standards as stringent as those of
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by heshamelaziry » Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:07 pm
IMO C

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by mehravikas » Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:35 pm
IMO - C

the law will not effect sport utility.....and therefore not subject to...

These two should have the same tense...

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by maihuna » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:01 am
mehravikas wrote:IMO - C

the law will not effect sport utility.....and therefore not subject to...

These two should have the same tense...
I think you are mistaken, the law is not the subject here:


law can not be subjected to emmision control it should be vehcile.
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by satish.nagdev » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:52 am
I think B is better, based on SC notes C seems to be too short
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by ChillingHEAT » Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:31 am
IMO C.

In B, "those of" is incorrect. It should be "those for"

Not able to get why option A is incorrect.

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by loveusonu » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:01 pm
IMO A

A. powered, and will not be subjected to emissions-control standards as -->Nothing Wrong and completely parallel.
stringent as they are for
B. powered, and therefore not subjected to emissions-control standards-->those(control std's) of doesn't make sense.
that are as stringent as those of
C. powered and therefore not subject to emissions-control standards as-->, required or else it becomes a run on sent after 'almost'
stringent as those for
D. powered, which are not subject to emissions-control standards as-->wrong referent of which.
stringent as they are for
E. powered and therefore they are not subject to emissions-control-->, required or else it becomes a run on sent after 'almost'
standards as stringent as those of

I am not sure how the OA should be between B & C when each of the options have clear errors. Source??
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by punitkaur » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:53 pm
In my opinion, It can't be A. C is correct.


Though the law will require emissions testing of all diesel vehicles, from
tractor trailers to excursion buses, it will have no effect on sport utility
vehicles, almost all of which are gasoline powered, and will not be subjected
to emissions-control standards as stringent as they are for

diesel-powered vehicles.

A. powered, and will not be subjected to emissions-control standards as
stringent as they are for ->incorrect


Why:

first of all a comma is not required as this phrase doesn't have to be parallel to "law will..."

If you concentrate on the meaning of the sentence, "almost all of which...." intends to modify sport utility vehicles describing the reason as to why the law will not affect the sport utility vehicles.

so a comma will distort the meaning of the sentence because it tries to make it sound parallel to "law will.."
But ends up conveying that the law is not "subject" to, whereas the original sentence means that the vehicles are the ones that are not subject to.

so A is definitely wrong.

Adding "and therefore" further explains the reason

subjected - no need of past tense verb.

standards for - correct idiomatic usage.

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by loveusonu » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:13 pm
Hey thanks Punit.
Good thought, but i don't think "almost all of which are gasoline powered" is modifying by giving reason.

If it author ought to give reason then its a RUN on sentence and 'therefore' or 'as' should come before 'almost' so as to modify 'sport utility vehicle' with reason

Lets look what original meaning says:

it will have no effect on sport utility vehicles, almost all of which are gasoline powered, and will not be subjected
to emissions-control standards as stringent
as they are for

SO original meaning is "it will have no effect.. and it will not be subjected to emission standards as..."

As option C conveys your though but as per RON we only go for change in meaning if the original meaning is nonsensical.

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by mehravikas » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:17 pm
Why so???

What does "it" refers to in the sentence then?
maihuna wrote:
mehravikas wrote:IMO - C

the law will not effect sport utility.....and therefore not subject to...

These two should have the same tense...
I think you are mistaken, the law is not the subject here:


law can not be subjected to emmision control it should be vehcile.

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by scoobydooby » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:38 pm
"it" refers to the law and it is the subject of the main clause. for our purpose we are concened with the underlined part-the part that comes after sport utility vehicles-modifying the sport utility vehicles

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by loveusonu » Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:17 am
punitkaur wrote:In my opinion, It can't be A. C is correct.


Though the law will require emissions testing of all diesel vehicles, from
tractor trailers to excursion buses, it will have no effect on sport utility
vehicles, almost all of which are gasoline powered, and will not be subjected
to emissions-control standards as stringent as they are for

diesel-powered vehicles.

A. powered, and will not be subjected to emissions-control standards as
stringent as they are for ->incorrect


Why:

first of all a comma is not required as this phrase doesn't have to be parallel to "law will..."

If you concentrate on the meaning of the sentence, "almost all of which...." intends to modify sport utility vehicles describing the reason as to why the law will not affect the sport utility vehicles.

so a comma will distort the meaning of the sentence because it tries to make it sound parallel to "law will.."
But ends up conveying that the law is not "subject" to, whereas the original sentence means that the vehicles are the ones that are not subject to.

so A is definitely wrong.

Adding "and therefore" further explains the reason

subjected - no need of past tense verb.

standards for - correct idiomatic usage.
Hey thanks Punit.
Good thought, but i don't think "almost all of which are gasoline powered" is modifying by giving reason.

If it author ought to give reason then its a RUN on sentence and 'therefore' or 'as' should come before 'almost' so as to modify 'sport utility vehicle' with reason

Lets look what original meaning says:

it will have no effect on sport utility vehicles, almost all of which are gasoline powered, and will not be subjected
to emissions-control standards as stringent as they are for

SO original meaning is "it will have no effect.. and it will not be subjected to emission standards as..."

As option C conveys your though but as per RON we only go for change in meaning if the original meaning is nonsensical.

Let me know what you think on this??
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by tanviet » Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:54 am
check grammar

"for" is correct "of diesel vehicle" is wrong. B and E are wrong

"which" in D has no referent.

"will not" in A is not parallel to "be gasoline powered" structurally. both verbs must be in the same tense to parallel structurally and logically.

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by mmslf75 » Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:20 am
maihuna wrote:Though the law will require emissions testing of all diesel vehicles, from
tractor trailers to excursion buses, it will have no effect on sport utility
vehicles, almost all of which are gasoline powered, and will not be subjected
to emissions-control standards as stringent as they are for

diesel-powered vehicles.
A. powered, and will not be subjected to emissions-control standards as
stringent as they are for
B. powered, and therefore not subjected to emissions-control standards
that are as stringent as those of
C. powered and therefore not subject to emissions-control standards as
stringent as those for
D. powered, which are not subject to emissions-control standards as
stringent as they are for
E. powered and therefore they are not subject to emissions-control
standards as stringent as those of
[spoiler]answer:B/C[/spoiler]
Answer must be C

Here are my reasons

A. powered, and will not be subjected to emissions-control standards as
stringent as they are for
and will implies "LAW will not be... " awkward
B. powered, and therefore not subjected to emissions-control standards
that are as stringent as those of
Standards that are " that are is not required.
Standards for .. not OF

C. powered and therefore not subject to emissions-control standards as
stringent as those for
Therfore not subjcted to .. implies SUV not subjected to -- clear meaning
D. powered, which are not subject to emissions-control standards as
stringent as they are for
Though pronoun ambiguity is ok to some extent. Here THEY breaks the rule. They mat refer to EMISSIONS VEHICLES STANDARDS etc

E. powered and therefore they are not subject to emissions-control
standards as stringent as those of
They again(as in D)
STANDRADS OF wrong usage


C WINS hands down!!

Wat say ??

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by hrishi19884 » Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:53 am
mmslf75 wrote:
maihuna wrote:Though the law will require emissions testing of all diesel vehicles, from
tractor trailers to excursion buses, it will have no effect on sport utility
vehicles, almost all of which are gasoline powered, and will not be subjected
to emissions-control standards as stringent as they are for

diesel-powered vehicles.
A. powered, and will not be subjected to emissions-control standards as
stringent as they are for
B. powered, and therefore not subjected to emissions-control standards
that are as stringent as those of
C. powered and therefore not subject to emissions-control standards as
stringent as those for
D. powered, which are not subject to emissions-control standards as
stringent as they are for
E. powered and therefore they are not subject to emissions-control
standards as stringent as those of
[spoiler]answer:B/C[/spoiler]
Answer must be C

Here are my reasons

A. powered, and will not be subjected to emissions-control standards as
stringent as they are for
and will implies "LAW will not be... " awkward
B. powered, and therefore not subjected to emissions-control standards
that are as stringent as those of
Standards that are " that are is not required.
Standards for .. not OF

C. powered and therefore not subject to emissions-control standards as
stringent as those for
Therfore not subjcted to .. implies SUV not subjected to -- clear meaning
D. powered, which are not subject to emissions-control standards as
stringent as they are for
Though pronoun ambiguity is ok to some extent. Here THEY breaks the rule. They mat refer to EMISSIONS VEHICLES STANDARDS etc

E. powered and therefore they are not subject to emissions-control
standards as stringent as those of
They again(as in D)
STANDRADS OF wrong usage


C WINS hands down!!

Wat say ??
nice work! C should be the one.
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