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In a recent survey, twenty families reported their incomes for 1995. Was the range of reported 1995 incomes for these families greater than $60,000?

1) Thirteen of the reported incomes were between $20,000 and $35,000.

2) Seven of the reported incomes were between $80,000 and $95,000.

I had C

Original answer is E

Can someone explain why?

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by GMATGuruNY » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:15 pm
lazarogb wrote:In a recent survey, twenty families reported their incomes for 1995. Was the range of reported 1995 incomes for these families greater than $60,000?

1) Thirteen of the reported incomes were between $20,000 and $35,000.

2) Seven of the reported incomes were between $80,000 and $95,000.

I had C

Original answer is E

Can someone explain why?
Try EXTREMES.

Case 1: 13 incomes of 34,000 and 7 incomes of 81,000
Range = 81,000 - 34,000 = 47,000.

Case 2: 13 incomes of 21,000 and 7 incomes of 94,000
Range = 94,000 - 21,000 = 73,000.

Since in the first case the range is less than 60,000, and in the second case the range is greater than 60,000, the two statements combined are INSUFFICIENT.

The correct answer is E.
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by buzzdeepak » Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:10 pm
Hi Mitch,

I got your point about the extremes and understood the explanation.

But I had a few questions:

1. When the question says the range is between 20K and 35K, aren't we supposed to assume that at least one family has an income of 20K and at least one family has income of 35K?

2. Is it not necessary for the range to actually include those extreme values or is it just sufficient for all the 13 values to be in that range - for that matter all could be 30K? I assumed F1 = 20K, F13 = 35K, all others within this range but irrelevant

Could you please clarify? Just wanted to be crystal clear about this.
Thanks in advance...

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by Tommy Wallach » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:26 pm
Hey Buzz,

1. Not quite. If the statement said that the range for that many folks was $15,000, then we would have to assume some family was at either endpoint of that range. But if it simply says they are all between $20,000 and $35,000, they could all be the same, for all we know.

2. Actually, I think I already answered your second question, too!

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by buzzdeepak » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:10 pm
Thanks T.

That's true. The statements don't specify the incomes to be in a "range", just that they are between x and y.

Another lesson "read the question and given information carefully"!

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by Tommy Wallach » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:13 pm
Always a good rule! : )

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by GMATinsight » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:24 am
lazarogb wrote:In a recent survey, twenty families reported their incomes for 1995. Was the range of reported 1995 incomes for these families greater than $60,000?

1) Thirteen of the reported incomes were between $20,000 and $35,000.

2) Seven of the reported incomes were between $80,000 and $95,000.
CONCEPT: Range = Biggest element of the set - Smallest element of the set

Question : Was the range of reported 1995 incomes for these families greater than $60,000?

Question Rephrased: Was (Maximum Income - Minimum Income) > $60,000 ?

Statement 1) Thirteen of the reported incomes were between $20,000 and $35,000.
No information about the specific Maximum and minimum Income, Therefore
NOT SUFFICIENT

Statement 2) Seven of the reported incomes were between $80,000 and $95,000.
No information about the specific Maximum and minimum Income, Therefore
NOT SUFFICIENT

Combining the two statements

Case 1:
Highest possible Income = $95,000
Lowest possible Income = $20,000
i.e. Range = $75,000 > $60,000

Case 2:
Another Possible Highest Income = $80,000
Another Possible Lowest Income = $30,000
i.e. Range = $50,000 < $60,000
Inconsistent Answer, Therefore,
NOT SUFFICIENT

Answer: Option E
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by thuyduong91vnu » Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:15 pm
Hi,

Could someone help to explain this one, if the information given were
(1) Thirteen of the reported incomes were FROM $20,000 TO $35,000.
could we infer that in this group, there were at least one family whose income was exactly $20,000 and at least one family whose income was exactly $35,000? I mean will the meaning change if we use "FROM .. TO.." instead of "BETWEEN.. AND.." in this context?

Thanks for response :)

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by Matt@VeritasPrep » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:48 pm
thuyduong91vnu wrote:Hi,

Could someone help to explain this one, if the information given were
(1) Thirteen of the reported incomes were FROM $20,000 TO $35,000.
could we infer that in this group, there were at least one family whose income was exactly $20,000 and at least one family whose income was exactly $35,000? I mean will the meaning change if we use "FROM .. TO.." instead of "BETWEEN.. AND.." in this context?

Thanks for response :)
Not necessarily. Between 20 and 35 would be 20 < all incomes < 35, and "from 20 to 35" would be 20 ≤ all incomes ≤ 35.

You're on the right track, though! 20 ≤ x means that x COULD be 20, while 20 < x means that x CANNOT be 20. So incomes of $20,000 and $35,000 become possible, though not necessary.