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## Bert and Clair's coins (OG13)

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alex.gellatly Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
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#### Bert and Clair's coins (OG13)

Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:02 pm
What is the total number of coins that Bert and Claire have?
(1) Bert has 50 percent more coins than Claire.
(2) The total number of coins that Bert and Claire have is between 21 and 28.

OK, I got the correct answer by picking numbers and kind of guessing. Can someone show me a good algebraic approach?

Thanks!

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:36 am
there's catch in these kind of problems.

Once you combine both equations, you solve and get multiple answers.
It is important to ELIMINATE All possible wrong answers.

We know Coins can always be Positive numbers. Hence using the relation between B and C we can eliminate.

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Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:09 am
alex.gellatly wrote:
What is the total number of coins that Bert and Claire have?
(1) Bert has 50 percent more coins than Claire.
(2) The total number of coins that Bert and Claire have is between 21 and 28.

OK, I got the correct answer by picking numbers and kind of guessing. Can someone show me a good algebraic approach?

Thanks!
This problem is restricted to POSITIVE INTEGERS.

Statement 1: Bert has 50 percent more coins than Claire.
Thus, if C=2, then B = (1.5)2 = 3, implying that B:C = 3:2.
Since the sum of the parts of this ratio = 3+2 = 5, the total number of coins must be a multiple of 5.
INSUFFICIENT.

Statement 2: The total number of coins that Bert and Claire have is between 21 and 28.
Thus, the total number of coins could be any integer between 21 and 28.
INSUFFICIENT.

Statements 1 and 2 combined:
The only multiple of 5 between 21 and 28 is 25.
SUFFICIENT.

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vinodsundaram Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:36 am
there's catch in these kind of problems.

Once you combine both equations, you solve and get multiple answers.
It is important to ELIMINATE All possible wrong answers.

We know Coins can always be Positive numbers. Hence using the relation between B and C we can eliminate.

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Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:09 am
alex.gellatly wrote:
What is the total number of coins that Bert and Claire have?
(1) Bert has 50 percent more coins than Claire.
(2) The total number of coins that Bert and Claire have is between 21 and 28.

OK, I got the correct answer by picking numbers and kind of guessing. Can someone show me a good algebraic approach?

Thanks!
This problem is restricted to POSITIVE INTEGERS.

Statement 1: Bert has 50 percent more coins than Claire.
Thus, if C=2, then B = (1.5)2 = 3, implying that B:C = 3:2.
Since the sum of the parts of this ratio = 3+2 = 5, the total number of coins must be a multiple of 5.
INSUFFICIENT.

Statement 2: The total number of coins that Bert and Claire have is between 21 and 28.
Thus, the total number of coins could be any integer between 21 and 28.
INSUFFICIENT.

Statements 1 and 2 combined:
The only multiple of 5 between 21 and 28 is 25.
SUFFICIENT.

_________________
Mitch Hunt
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GMATGuruNY@gmail.com
If you find one of my posts helpful, please take a moment to click on the "Thank" icon.
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