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by ankit0703 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:45 am
While large banks can afford to maintain their own data-processing operations, many smaller regional and community banks are finding that the costs associated with upgrading data-processing equipment and with the development and maintenance of new products and technical staff are prohibitive.

In the above sentence how the two bold parts are parallel to each other?

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by EducationAisle » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:19 am
Yes, both are noun phrases.
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by ankit0703 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:55 am
EducationAisle wrote:Yes, both are noun phrases.

But "upgrading data-processing equipment" is a simple gerund phrase. How can this be parallel to "the development and maintenance of new products and technical staff"?

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by EducationAisle » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:58 am
Am not really aware of what a "simple gerund phrase" is. Basically "gerunds" are noun forms and so, both the phrases in your initial post are noun-phrases.
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by vikram4689 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:42 am
both of these are prepositional phrases. "with" is a preposition and what follows preposition is a noun form (noun/gerund/noun phrase). both of these phrases are parallel as they serve same purpose. they describe the entities to which costs in discussion are associated.
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by GMATGuruNY » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:51 am
ankit0703 wrote:
While larger banks can afford to maintain their own data-processing operations, many smaller regional and community banks are finding that the costs associated with upgrading data-processing equipment and with the development and maintenance of new products and technical staff are prohibitive.

But "upgrading data-processing equipment" is a simple gerund phrase. How can this be parallel to "the development and maintenance of new products and technical staff"?
Some verbs have both a DEDICATED NOUN FORM and a GERUND form.
For instance, to turn to resign into a noun, we can say resignation (the dedicated noun form) or resigning (the gerund form).
The GMAT tends to prefer the dedicated noun form when available.
DEVELOPMENT and MAINTENANCE are both dedicated noun forms.

The dedicated noun form of to upgrade is UPGRADE.
But an UPGRADE typically refers to a PIECE OF EQUIPMENT that provides better performance.
The intended meaning here is that the PROCESS of making improvements is costly.
To convey this meaning, the SC above must say UPGRADING.

Hence, each of the three nouns here is in the most preferred version available that will convey the intended meaning: UPGRADING, DEVELOPMENT, MAINTENANCE.
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by lunarpower » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:07 am
ankit0703 wrote:While large banks can afford to maintain their own data-processing operations, many smaller regional and community banks are finding that the costs associated with upgrading data-processing equipment and with the development and maintenance of new products and technical staff are prohibitive.

In the above sentence how the two bold parts are parallel to each other?

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you are forgetting one of the most important (and most obvious) features of official SC problems, which is that they have multiple choices.
your job is not to formulate "ideal" parallelism!
all you have to do is pick the choice with the BEST parallelism
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this is really important -- and it's really good news, too, since it's much easier to pick out the choice that's most parallel, out of a bunch of concrete options, than it is to create some sort of ideally worded sentence. (in fact, it's easier to make comparative judgments than to make absolute judgments about, well, just about anything. for instance, think of how easy it is to say which of two people is more attractive, vs. how hard it is to create some sort of absolute evaluation of human beauty.)

so, the issue here isn't, "is this ideal?" instead, the issue is "which of the choices is best?"
by taking the answer choices out of the picture, you are creating a task that is (unnecessarily) a million zillion thousand times harder than it has to be.

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as just one example of many, consider #50 in the DIAGNOSTIC section of the OG (not the regular sentence correction section). i can't reproduce that content here, but it contains a parallel structure that's a lot like this one:
We argue just as often and about the same things as the couple next door.
--> here, the parallel structures are "just as often" and "about the same things".
are these exactly the same? well, no; one of them contains an actual adverb, while the other is a prep phrase that acts as an adverb.
but,
1/ this is as good as it's going to get -- there's no decent prep phrase that means "just as often", and there's also no adverb that means "about the same things"
and, more importantly,
2/ there's no better option.

don't make your job any harder than it needs to be! this is already hard enough, i'd say.
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by lunarpower » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:09 am
ankit0703 wrote:But "upgrading data-processing equipment" is a simple gerund phrase. How can this be parallel to "the development and maintenance of new products and technical staff"?
... because, well, it can.
see og12 #64 for another example in which the same thing happens.

again, the most important thing to say here -- really, the only thing worth saying here -- is that you should make comparative decisions about this stuff. you have five answer choices; they are your friends. if you are not actually asked to make a comparative decision about this stuff, then don't bother.
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by ankit0703 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:47 am
lunarpower wrote:
ankit0703 wrote:But "upgrading data-processing equipment" is a simple gerund phrase. How can this be parallel to "the development and maintenance of new products and technical staff"?
... because, well, it can.
see og12 #64 for another example in which the same thing happens.

again, the most important thing to say here -- really, the only thing worth saying here -- is that you should make comparative decisions about this stuff. you have five answer choices; they are your friends. if you are not actually asked to make a comparative decision about this stuff, then don't bother.
Thanks Ron for the detail reply.

The OG problem looks like this:

While larger banks can afford to maintain their own data-processing operations, many smaller regional and community banks are finding that the cost associated with upgrading data-processing equipment and with the development and maintenance of new products and technical staff are prohibitive.


The above statement has problem in the cost associated with not in "upgrading data-processing equipment and with the development and maintenance of new products and technical staff are prohibitive".

I was just expecting that this part of the sentence should be ideal.

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by lunarpower » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:00 am
ankit0703 wrote:I was just expecting that this part of the sentence should be ideal.
never forget -- there are multiple-choice options for a reason!
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by BTG14 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:13 am
In terms of parallelism:

1. A standard noun can be parallel to another standard noun.
2. A standard noun can be parallel to an ING OF noun.
3. A standard noun can be parallel to a ING noun but is not preferred.
4. A standard noun can be parallel to a ING noun but is not preferred.