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ABC's and 123's

by pchun008 » Mon May 05, 2014 8:34 pm
If abcd ≠ 0, is ab2c3d4 < 0?

(1) ab2c3 < 0

(2) b2c3d4 < 0

I encountered this problem on an MGMAT CAT exam, but the explanation makes no sense to me. The official answer is A. Can anyone explain why the answer is A?

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by [email protected] » Mon May 05, 2014 11:37 pm
Hi pchun008,

I assume that this question involves exponent rules. For future reference, when posting these types of questions, you should use the following notation:

When referring to X-squared, write X^2
When referring to Y-cubed, write Y^3
Etc.

Here, were told that abcd is not equal to 0, so NONE of the variables can be 0.

We're asked if A(B^2)(C^3)(D^4) < 0? This is a YES/NO question.

Since we're not allowed to use 0, we already know that (B^2) is going to be positive and (D^4) is also going to be positive.

This question is ultimately asking "Is A(C^3) < 0?"

This question can further be "re-written" as "Is one of A or C negative?" although you might not need to take this question that far.

Fact 1: A(B^2)(C^3) < 0

Since (B^2) = positive, this Fact tells us that A(C^3) < 0, so the answer to the question is ALWAYS YES.
Fact 1 is SUFFICIENT

Fact 2: (B^2)(C^3)(D^4) < 0

Since (B^2) is positive and (D^4) is positive, this Fact tells us that (C^3) < 0.

However, it does not tell us anything about the value of A.
If A = negative, then the answer to the question is NO.
If A = positive, then the answer to the question is YES.
Fact 2 is INSUFFICIENT

Final Answer: A

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by pchun008 » Tue May 06, 2014 9:17 am
Thanks! That makes so much more sense to me. The book explanation was really confusing, which is the reason why I thought it would be best to post here and hopefully get a better and more easily digestible explanation.

I apologize about the formatting, I'll remember to heed that next time! :)

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by Matt@VeritasPrep » Mon May 12, 2014 12:15 pm
As an addendum here, a much better way of writing exponents is using ASCII codes to write them properly, or just copying them in exponent form from this page:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1509 ... r-power-10

Then an equation such as

a * b² * c³ * d� < 0

is much easier to read and follow.

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by unknown13 » Thu May 15, 2014 7:37 pm
thanks for the explanation
but suppose the question is

If abcd ≠ 0, is abcd < 0?

(1) abc < 0

(2) bcd < 0

Do you think the answer will be E

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by confused13 » Thu May 15, 2014 11:22 pm
I say the answer is D. Why ?

The only options left are TOGETHER or NEITHER.

Together:
b,c must have the same values in both (1) and (2)

b=1
c=-1

-> d=-1
-> a=-1
-> abcd<0

if
b=-1
c=-1

-> d=-1
-> a=-1

-> abcd>0


--> D


But I'd love to hear Rich's explanation. His explanations are always good.

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by [email protected] » Thu May 15, 2014 11:55 pm
Hi confused13,

If we deal with the question that unknown13 posed....then we can use Number Properties to solve it.

We're told that none of the variables can = 0. We're asked Is ABCD < 0? This is a YES/NO question.

Fact 1: ABC < 0

We're not told anything about D.
If D = Positive, then ABCD < 0 and the answer to the question is YES.
if D = Negative, then ABCD > 0 and the answer to the question is NO.
Fact 1 is INSUFFICIENT.

Fact 2: BCD < 0

This is similar to what we saw in Fact 1.
We don't know anything about A.
If A = Positive, then ABCD < 0 and the answer to the question is YES.
If A = Negative, then ABCD > 0 and the answer to the question is NO.
Fact 2 is INSUFFICIENT.

Combined, we know....
Since ABC < 0, then 1 or ALL 3 of the variables are NEGATIVE
Since BCD < 0, then 1 or ALL 3 of the variables are NEGATIVE
Notice how B and C appear in BOTH inequalities....

IF....
C = Negative
A = Positive
B = Positive
D = Positive
Then the answer to the question is YES.

IF....
A = Negative
B = Positive
C = Positive
D = Negative
Then the answer to the question is NO.

Final Answer: E

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