A certain quantity is measured on two different scales, the R-scale and the S-scale, that are related linearly. Measurements on the R-scale of 6 and 24 correspond to measurements on the S-scale of 30 and 60, respectively. What measurement on the R-scale corresponds to a measurement of 100 on the S-scale?
A. 20
B. 36
C. 48
D. 60
E. 84
which ratio is to be used for this.
6:30 | 24:60 |x:100 = 1:5|2:5|x:100
taking 1:5 leads x = 20 which is incorrect
taking 2:5 leads x = 40 not an option
Please suggest how to approach such questions ?
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something that's linear will fit in the form
y=mx+b
what you are suggesting is that b=0 so y=mx is a ratio, but that may not be the case. Let's look at the question.
let R scale = x scale
and let S scale = y scale
(x1,y1) = (6,30)
(x2,y2) = (24,60)
to get slope (or m) we can write (60-30)/(24-6) = 30/18 = 5/3
so y= 5/3x + b
you can realize from points given above that y=0 will be at point x=6- (24-6) = 6-18 = -12
so 0=5/3*(-12) + b so b=20
y= 5/3x + 20
now we are given S(or y in our case) = 100
100 = 5/3x + 20
80 = 5/3x
16*3 = x
48 = x or R
so ans is C
y=mx+b
what you are suggesting is that b=0 so y=mx is a ratio, but that may not be the case. Let's look at the question.
let R scale = x scale
and let S scale = y scale
(x1,y1) = (6,30)
(x2,y2) = (24,60)
to get slope (or m) we can write (60-30)/(24-6) = 30/18 = 5/3
so y= 5/3x + b
you can realize from points given above that y=0 will be at point x=6- (24-6) = 6-18 = -12
so 0=5/3*(-12) + b so b=20
y= 5/3x + 20
now we are given S(or y in our case) = 100
100 = 5/3x + 20
80 = 5/3x
16*3 = x
48 = x or R
so ans is C
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Great solution!m&m wrote:something that's linear will fit in the form
y=mx+b
what you are suggesting is that b=0 so y=mx is a ratio, but that may not be the case. Let's look at the question.
let R scale = x scale
and let S scale = y scale
(x1,y1) = (6,30)
(x2,y2) = (24,60)
to get slope (or m) we can write (60-30)/(24-6) = 30/18 = 5/3
so y= 5/3x + b
you can realize from points given above that y=0 will be at point x=6- (24-6) = 6-18 = -12
so 0=5/3*(-12) + b so b=20
y= 5/3x + 20
now we are given S(or y in our case) = 100
100 = 5/3x + 20
80 = 5/3x
16*3 = x
48 = x or R
so ans is C
Another way we could think of it (although mathematically all you're doing is finding the "slope") is as a sliding ratio.
The R scale measurements went from 6 to 24; the S scale measurements went from 30 to 60.
So, for every increase of 18 in R, we have an increase of 30 in S.
change in R/change in S = 18/30 = 3/5
In our last jump, S goes from 60 to 100 (change of 40). Plugging that into our ratio we get:
change in R/40 = 3/5
change in R = (3/5)40 = 24
R started at 24; 24+24 = 48, choose C.
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I don't quite understand how we calculate x-value when y=0. Could anyone explain please? Thank you!m&m wrote:
you can realize from points given above that y=0 will be at point x=6- (24-6) = 6-18 = -12
so 0=5/3*(-12) + b so b=20
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Stuart Kovinsky wrote:Great solution!m&m wrote:something that's linear will fit in the form
y=mx+b
what you are suggesting is that b=0 so y=mx is a ratio, but that may not be the case. Let's look at the question.
let R scale = x scale
and let S scale = y scale
(x1,y1) = (6,30)
(x2,y2) = (24,60)
to get slope (or m) we can write (60-30)/(24-6) = 30/18 = 5/3
so y= 5/3x + b
you can realize from points given above that y=0 will be at point x=6- (24-6) = 6-18 = -12
so 0=5/3*(-12) + b so b=20
y= 5/3x + 20
now we are given S(or y in our case) = 100
100 = 5/3x + 20
80 = 5/3x
16*3 = x
48 = x or R
so ans is C
Another way we could think of it (although mathematically all you're doing is finding the "slope") is as a sliding ratio.
The R scale measurements went from 6 to 24; the S scale measurements went from 30 to 60.
So, for every increase of 18 in R, we have an increase of 30 in S.
change in R/change in S = 18/30 = 3/5
In our last jump, S goes from 60 to 100 (change of 40). Plugging that into our ratio we get:
change in R/40 = 3/5
change in R = (3/5)40 = 24
R started at 24; 24+24 = 48, choose C.
Superb method.. stuart.. thanks
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Nothing more to add after 2 amazing approaches....yet, there is an unanswered Q heresomething that's linear will fit in the form
y=mx+b
what you are suggesting is that b=0 so y=mx is a ratio, but that may not be the case. Let's look at the question.
let R scale = x scale
and let S scale = y scale
(x1,y1) = (6,30)
(x2,y2) = (24,60)
to get slope (or m) we can write (60-30)/(24-6) = 30/18 = 5/3
so y= 5/3x + b
once we have the slope-intercept equation, y= 5/3x + b.....simply substitute x and y values of the 2 available points in this equation and figure bI don't quite understand how we calculate x-value when y=0. Could anyone explain please? Thank you!
For instance, substitute (6,30) in y= 5/3x + b; we get b = 20 and hence the revised slope-intercept form of the equation is
y = 5/3 x + 20....simply substitute y=100 here and get x = 48...which is option C....done
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This is stupendous of both of you, Stuart's in particular, his approach could sound peculiar to many as that is some deep anatomy of plain algebra, but presented so beautifully! Nicely put the final nail in the R/S Scale's coffin, vidyasagar. Great thread seen since a long timeStuart Kovinsky wrote:Great solution!m&m wrote:something that's linear will fit in the form
y=mx+b
what you are suggesting is that b=0 so y=mx is a ratio, but that may not be the case. Let's look at the question.
let R scale = x scale
and let S scale = y scale
(x1,y1) = (6,30)
(x2,y2) = (24,60)
to get slope (or m) we can write (60-30)/(24-6) = 30/18 = 5/3
so y= 5/3x + b
you can realize from points given above that y=0 will be at point x=6- (24-6) = 6-18 = -12
so 0=5/3*(-12) + b so b=20
y= 5/3x + 20
now we are given S(or y in our case) = 100
100 = 5/3x + 20
80 = 5/3x
16*3 = x
48 = x or R
so ans is C
Another way we could think of it (although mathematically all you're doing is finding the "slope") is as a sliding ratio.
The R scale measurements went from 6 to 24; the S scale measurements went from 30 to 60.
So, for every increase of 18 in R, we have an increase of 30 in S.
change in R/change in S = 18/30 = 3/5
In our last jump, S goes from 60 to 100 (change of 40). Plugging that into our ratio we get:
change in R/40 = 3/5
change in R = (3/5)40 = 24
R started at 24; 24+24 = 48, choose C.
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