If x, y, and z are integers greater than 1, and (3^27)(35^10)(z) = (5^8 )(7^10)(9^14)(x^y), then what is the value of x?
(1) z is prime
(2) x is prime
Primes/Exponents: If x, y, and z are integers greater than 1
Could u please pos the question again.
whats the power of 5?
i think that OA shud b E as z can be any prime 2,3,5 ,7 n even if we find the value of z and x..we still don know he value of y.
whats the OA?
whats the power of 5?
i think that OA shud b E as z can be any prime 2,3,5 ,7 n even if we find the value of z and x..we still don know he value of y.
whats the OA?
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Im assuming it is 5^8
Simplifying the equation, you get
(25/3).z = x^y
Since x, y, z are integers greater than 1, x^y is also an integer.
So (25/3).z is an integer
St 1
z is prime
Only z = 3 satisfies the condition, (25/3).z is an integer
which gives x^y = 25 and x=5
SUFF
St 2
x is prime.
z must be a multiple of 3 for (25/3).z to be an integer.
x must be a multiple of 5.
Since x is prime and greater than 1, x can only be equal to 5
SUFF
So D
Simplifying the equation, you get
(25/3).z = x^y
Since x, y, z are integers greater than 1, x^y is also an integer.
So (25/3).z is an integer
St 1
z is prime
Only z = 3 satisfies the condition, (25/3).z is an integer
which gives x^y = 25 and x=5
SUFF
St 2
x is prime.
z must be a multiple of 3 for (25/3).z to be an integer.
x must be a multiple of 5.
Since x is prime and greater than 1, x can only be equal to 5
SUFF
So D
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If x^y = 25 and x, y are integers there are two possibilities 25^1 and 5^2its_me07 wrote:plz post the OA
sankruth: we know 25=5^2 so if x^y=25 can we deduce the value of x ourselves as there is no inf given in st 1.
But the question stem mentions that x, y and z are greater than 1, so it must be 5^2
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Thanks for your input guys ... but unfortunately I dont have the OA to this. It was sent to me by another friend of mine.
I am hoping Stuart Kovinsky (our resident number properties expert !) will provide some input to this thread.
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The solutions posted are good, but sure, I'll throw my 2 cents in.II wrote:If x, y, and z are integers greater than 1, and (3^27)(35^10)(z) = (5^8 )(7^10)(9^14)(x^y), then what is the value of x?
(1) z is prime
(2) x is prime
As always, when faced with a complicated stem we want to simplify it. Here, we see different very big numbers on both sides, so let's reduce to primes:
(3^27)(5^10)(7^10)z = (5^8)(7^10)(3^28)(x^y)
[35^10 = (5*7)^10 = 5^10 * 7^10]
[9^14 = (3^2)^14 = 3^(2*14) = 3^28]
Since we're solving for x, let's move all the numbers to the 'z' side. After reducing the exponents, we get:
(5^2)(z)/(3) = x^y
(25/3)z = x^y
As pointed out, we know that x, y and z are all integers greater than 1; therefore, x^y is an integer. Since the right side is an integer, the left side must also be an integer. For (25/3)z to be an integer, z MUST be a multiple of 3.
So, to solve for x, we need more info about x, y and/or z.
(1) z is prime.
Well, if z is a multiple of 3 AND z is prime, we know that z=3.
We now know that x^y = 25*3/3 = 25
If x and y are integers, there are two solutions:
a) x = 25 and y = 1; and
b) x = 5 and y = 2.
Since we know that y is greater than 1, x MUST be equal to 5. Sufficient!
(2) x is prime.
We could have written the original equation as:
z = (3/25)x^y
Since z is an integer, the right side must also be an integer. For the right side to be an integer, x^y has to be a multiple of 25.
For x^y to be a multiple of 25, x MUST be a multiple of 5 (since x and y are integers). If x is a multiple of 5 AND prime, x MUST be equal to 5. Sufficient!
Each statement is sufficient on its own: choose (d).
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I'd estimate that this would be a mid-600s level question.II wrote:Hi Stuart ... how would you classify this question ?
Would you say it is easy (<550), medium (550-700), hard (700+) ?
Thanks.
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According to ManhattanGMAT, this is a 700+ level question.Stuart Kovinsky wrote:I'd estimate that this would be a mid-600s level question.II wrote:Hi Stuart ... how would you classify this question ?
Would you say it is easy (<550), medium (550-700), hard (700+) ?
Thanks.
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So the actual question that i got on Manhattan GMAT said that y was prime for statement (1), instead of z being prime. But it doesnt change a whole lot.II wrote:If x, y, and z are integers greater than 1, and (3^27)(35^10)(z) = (5^8 )(7^10)(9^14)(x^y), then what is the value of x?
(1) z is prime
(2) x is prime
My main issue is, if you look at statement (2), how do you know that you cant have x = 5, y = 3, z = 15?
When you reduce the equations you have: 5^2 * z = 3x^y.
(5^2)(15) = 3(5^3)
(5^3)(3) = 3(5^3).
If I'm not mistaken, this is an alternate solution, that doesnt violate the information provided by Statement 2. Thus, statement 2 would not be sufficient?
Please explain if I made an oversight?
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It's very important to identify exactly what the question is asking.JasonReynolds wrote:So the actual question that i got on Manhattan GMAT said that y was prime for statement (1), instead of z being prime. But it doesnt change a whole lot.II wrote:If x, y, and z are integers greater than 1, and (3^27)(35^10)(z) = (5^8 )(7^10)(9^14)(x^y), then what is the value of x?
(1) z is prime
(2) x is prime
My main issue is, if you look at statement (2), how do you know that you cant have x = 5, y = 3, z = 15?
When you reduce the equations you have: 5^2 * z = 3x^y.
(5^2)(15) = 3(5^3)
(5^3)(3) = 3(5^3).
If I'm not mistaken, this is an alternate solution, that doesnt violate the information provided by Statement 2. Thus, statement 2 would not be sufficient?
Please explain if I made an oversight?
Here, the question is "what is the value of x?"
As you've pointed out, statement (2) gives us many possible values for y and z. However, we always get the same value for x (which has to be both prime and a multiple of 5), so the statement is sufficient to answer the question.
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When I initially read the question, I thought that one could solve the problem without reading any of the choices. I have read Ian mention the “Fundamental theorem of arithmetic” which (roughly) mentions that once the numbers on each side are reduced to their primes, their exponents must be equal on both sides. (please correct me if I have this wrong).
So, once we get –
5^2 (z) = x^y (3)
on each side, and we already know that x, y, and z are greater than 1, then according to the theorem, doesn’t everything has to match? Since 3 and z on each side are the only ones with 1 as their exponent, don’t they already match? (meaning z has to 3) And since 5^2 and x^y are the only ones on each side with an exponent higher than one, (y is greater than 1), don’t they already match? Why is it necessary for us to know that they are prime?
I am sure my thinking is flawed somehow, so I am grateful for you clearing it up.
Thanks,
So, once we get –
5^2 (z) = x^y (3)
on each side, and we already know that x, y, and z are greater than 1, then according to the theorem, doesn’t everything has to match? Since 3 and z on each side are the only ones with 1 as their exponent, don’t they already match? (meaning z has to 3) And since 5^2 and x^y are the only ones on each side with an exponent higher than one, (y is greater than 1), don’t they already match? Why is it necessary for us to know that they are prime?
I am sure my thinking is flawed somehow, so I am grateful for you clearing it up.
Thanks,
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Not Necessarily
As shown above z= (3/25)X^Y
If X is not prime, then X^Y could be any multiple of 25. For example, if X=10 & Y =2, then Z=(3/25)*100 = 12
Therefore we have to know if X is prime.
As shown above z= (3/25)X^Y
If X is not prime, then X^Y could be any multiple of 25. For example, if X=10 & Y =2, then Z=(3/25)*100 = 12
Therefore we have to know if X is prime.