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1)Judges will select 5 from 7.They will then rank and give prizes to 3 highest ranked contestants: blue,red and yellow.How many arrangements are possible?
options
10;21;210;420;1260
My answer
7c3=35 but t is not the option.PLease help and explain.
2)integers 1 to 100 are each written on a slip of paper inclusive and one slip is drwan out without replacement.What is the probablity that it is neither even nor multiple of 3.
options
83;67;50;33;17
my answer
got stuck
1-((50/100)+(33/100)-P(even and multiples of 3))
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The first problem should read as follows:
Number of options for blue = 7. (Any of the 7 contestants could be ranked blue.)
Number of options for red = 6. (Any of the 6 remaining contestants could be ranked red.)
Number of options for yellow = 5. (Any of the 5 remaining contestants could be ranked yellow.)
To combine these options, we multiply:
7*6*5 = 210.
The correct answer is C.
The selection of 5 finalists is IRRELEVANT and has no bearing on the number of possible arrangements.Judges will select 5 finalists from the 7 contestants entered in a singing competition. The judges will then rank the contestants and award prizes to the 3 highest ranked contestants: a blue ribbon for first place, a red ribbon for second place, and a yellow ribbon for third place. How many different arrangements of prize-winners are possible?
10
21
210
420
1,260
Number of options for blue = 7. (Any of the 7 contestants could be ranked blue.)
Number of options for red = 6. (Any of the 6 remaining contestants could be ranked red.)
Number of options for yellow = 5. (Any of the 5 remaining contestants could be ranked yellow.)
To combine these options, we multiply:
7*6*5 = 210.
The correct answer is C.
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The second problem should read as follows:
Total integers = (evens) + (multiples of 3) - (integers that are BOTH even AND divisible by 3) + (neither).
Total integers = 100.
Since half of the integers between 1 and 100 inclusive are even, the number of EVEN integers = 50.
Since 100/3 = 33.33, the number of multiples of 3 between 1 and 100 inclusive = 33.
An integer that is BOTH even AND divisible by 3 is a MULTIPLE OF 6.
Since 100/6 = 16.66, the number of multiples of 6 between 1 and 100 inclusive = 16.
Plugging these values into the equation above, we get:
100 = 50 + 33 - 16 + N
N = 33.
Thus:
P(neither even nor a multiple of 3) = 33/100 = 33%.
The correct answer is D.
One approach:The integers from 1 to 100 inclusive are each written on a single slip of paper and dropped into a jar. If one slip of paper is removed at random, what is the probability that the number on it is neither even nor a multiple of 3?
83%
67%
50%
33%
17%
Total integers = (evens) + (multiples of 3) - (integers that are BOTH even AND divisible by 3) + (neither).
Total integers = 100.
Since half of the integers between 1 and 100 inclusive are even, the number of EVEN integers = 50.
Since 100/3 = 33.33, the number of multiples of 3 between 1 and 100 inclusive = 33.
An integer that is BOTH even AND divisible by 3 is a MULTIPLE OF 6.
Since 100/6 = 16.66, the number of multiples of 6 between 1 and 100 inclusive = 16.
Plugging these values into the equation above, we get:
100 = 50 + 33 - 16 + N
N = 33.
Thus:
P(neither even nor a multiple of 3) = 33/100 = 33%.
The correct answer is D.
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An alternative is to list out numbers and try to detect a pattern:The integers from 1 to 100 inclusive are each written on a single slip of paper and dropped into a jar. If one slip of paper is removed at random, what is the probability that the number on it is neither even nor a multiple of 3?
83%
67%
50%
33%
17%
1, 2, 3 ---> 1/3 not even or multiple of 3
4, 5, 6---> 1/3 not even or multiple of 3
7, 8, 9, ---> 1/3 not even or multiple of 3
1/3 = 33%
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As David says, we can list and look for a pattern.The integers from 1 to 100 inclusive are each written on a single slip of paper and dropped into a jar. If one slip of paper is removed at random, what is the probability that the number on it is neither even nor a multiple of 3?
83%
67%
50%
33%
17%
ALSO NOTE that, even if we don't spot a pattern, the answers are spread out enough to still find the correct answer. Here's what I mean:
Check the first 20 integers and list those that are neither even nor a multiple of 3. We get: 1, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19 (7 values)
So, 7 of the first 20 integers meet the given criteria.
7/20 = 35%, so B looks like the only candidate that's reasonably close.
If you're not convinced, try checking the first 40 integers instead. We get: 1, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 25, 29, 31, 35, 37 (13 values)
So, 13 of the first 40 integers meet the given criteria.
13/40 is CLOSE TO 13/39 (which = 1/3), so B is still the only candidate that's reasonably close.
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My approach is the same as Mitch's, with a few extra bits filled in.Judges will select 5 finalists from the 7 contestants entered in a singing competition. The judges will then rank the contestants and award prizes to the 3 highest ranked contestants: a blue ribbon for first place, a red ribbon for second place, and a yellow ribbon for third place. How many different arrangements of prize-winners are possible?
10
21
210
420
1,260
Take the task of assigning the ribbons and break it into stages.
Stage 1: Select the person to receive the first place (blue) ribbon
Since there are 7 people to choose from, we can complete stage 1 in 7 ways
Stage 2: Select the person to receive the second place (red) ribbon
Since there are now 6 people remaining to choose from, we can complete stage 2 in 6 ways
Stage 3: Select the person to receive the third place (yellow) ribbon
Since there are now 6 people remaining to choose from, we can complete stage 2 in 5 ways
By the Fundamental Counting Principle (FCP), we can complete all 3 stages (and thus assign all 3 ribbons) in (7)(6)(5) ways ([spoiler]= 210 ways[/spoiler])
Answer: C
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regarding the judge question.it looks like you have made it a permutation question.I did not understand why order would matter here.As i use FCP when order matters and combo when it doesn't.
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Hi src_saurav,src_saurav wrote:regarding the judge question.it looks like you have made it a permutation question.I did not understand why order would matter here.As i use FCP when order matters and combo when it doesn't.
In your original post, you suggested that the answer might be 7C3 (which = 35)
This is a good start.
7C3 represents the number of ways to select 3 people from 7 people (if order does not matter).
NOTE: When I say that order doesn't matter, I'm saying that being selected 1st is no different from being selected 2nd or 3rd)
Your calculations to this point are perfectly fine.
HOWEVER, now that you've selected 3 people (where order does not matter), who gets the blue ribbon? Or the red ribbon? Or the yellow one? So, we still have some work to do.
Assign someone the blue ribbon: We can give it to any of the 3 selected people. So, we can do this in 3 ways.
Assign someone the red ribbon: We can give it to either of the 2 remaining people. So, we can do this in 2 ways.
Assign someone the yellow ribbon: We must give it to the last remaining person. So, we can do this in 1 way.
So, the total number of possibilities = (35)(3)(2)(1)
= 210
= C
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Hi everybody,
The judges Qn, though an easy Qn, was actually very interesting.
What I did right after seeing the problem: N = 7C5*5C3 = 210
Then I thought why should 5 matter at all, I did: N = 7C3*3! = 210
After some moments I tried: N = 7P3 = 210 (since every constant gets a different colored ribbon, order matters, assigning ribbon is just like numbering)
With FCP, as Mich said, N = 7*6*5 = 210 (easiest this way)
I would like to know whether there is any generalization, towards which we are approaching.. Experts' comments needed.
~Binit.
The judges Qn, though an easy Qn, was actually very interesting.
What I did right after seeing the problem: N = 7C5*5C3 = 210
Then I thought why should 5 matter at all, I did: N = 7C3*3! = 210
After some moments I tried: N = 7P3 = 210 (since every constant gets a different colored ribbon, order matters, assigning ribbon is just like numbering)
With FCP, as Mich said, N = 7*6*5 = 210 (easiest this way)
I would like to know whether there is any generalization, towards which we are approaching.. Experts' comments needed.
~Binit.
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Your first approach worked because for these particular integers (n choose k) * (k choose r) = n permute (n - r). (Try the problem with n = 8 people instead of n = 7, however.)binit wrote:Hi everybody,
The judges Qn, though an easy Qn, was actually very interesting.
What I did right after seeing the problem: N = 7C5*5C3 = 210
Then I thought why should 5 matter at all, I did: N = 7C3*3! = 210
After some moments I tried: N = 7P3 = 210 (since every constant gets a different colored ribbon, order matters, assigning ribbon is just like numbering)
With FCP, as Mich said, N = 7*6*5 = 210 (easiest this way)
I would like to know whether there is any generalization, towards which we are approaching.. Experts' comments needed.
~Binit.
Your second and third approaches gave the same answer because for any valid n and k (n choose k) * k! = (n permute k).
Your fourth answer worked because it IS the permutations formula, just written in a format that happens work nicely when n and (n - k) are very close. (That is, 7 permute 3 is perhaps better written as 7*6*5, while 70 permute 30 probably should be left as is.)
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Thanks Matt,Your first approach worked because for these particular integers (n choose k) * (k choose r) = n permute (n - r). (Try the problem with n = 8 people instead of n = 7, however.)
Your second and third approaches gave the same answer because for any valid n and k (n choose k) * k! = (n permute k).
Your fourth answer worked because it IS the permutations formula, just written in a format that happens work nicely when n and (n - k) are very close. (That is, 7 permute 3 is perhaps better written as 7*6*5, while 70 permute 30 probably should be left as is.)
So, I was just lucky and basically it is a permutation problem and we have to identify that 5 is irrelevant here.
Would you pls comment on how to decide whether FCP or Formula might be the easiest/ fastest approach to a counting problem?
~Binit.
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Hi Brent,
Could you please tell me whats wrong with my thinking process?
P(not even or not not divisible by 3) = p(not even) = p(not even) + p (not divisble by 3) - P ( not even & not divisible by 3)
p(not even) = 1/2
p(not divisible by 3) = 1/3
p(not even and not divisible by 3) = p(not even) x (p not divisible by 3) = 1/2 x 1/3 = 1/6
therefore: P(not even or not not divisible by 3) = 1/2 + 1/3 - 1/6 = 4/6 = 66.6%
Could you please tell me whats wrong with my thinking process?
P(not even or not not divisible by 3) = p(not even) = p(not even) + p (not divisble by 3) - P ( not even & not divisible by 3)
p(not even) = 1/2
p(not divisible by 3) = 1/3
p(not even and not divisible by 3) = p(not even) x (p not divisible by 3) = 1/2 x 1/3 = 1/6
therefore: P(not even or not not divisible by 3) = 1/2 + 1/3 - 1/6 = 4/6 = 66.6%
GMATGuruNY wrote:The second problem should read as follows:
One approach:The integers from 1 to 100 inclusive are each written on a single slip of paper and dropped into a jar. If one slip of paper is removed at random, what is the probability that the number on it is neither even nor a multiple of 3?
83%
67%
50%
33%
17%
Total integers = (evens) + (multiples of 3) - (integers that are BOTH even AND divisible by 3) + (neither).
Total integers = 100.
Since half of the integers between 1 and 100 inclusive are even, the number of EVEN integers = 50.
Since 100/3 = 33.33, the number of multiples of 3 between 1 and 100 inclusive = 33.
An integer that is BOTH even AND divisible by 3 is a MULTIPLE OF 6.
Since 100/6 = 16.66, the number of multiples of 6 between 1 and 100 inclusive = 16.
Plugging these values into the equation above, we get:
100 = 50 + 33 - 16 + N
N = 33.
Thus:
P(neither even nor a multiple of 3) = 33/100 = 33%.
The correct answer is D.
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neither X nor Y means not X AND not Y.Amrabdelnaby wrote:Could you please tell me whats wrong with my thinking process?
P(not even or not not divisible by 3) = p(not even) = p(not even) + p (not divisble by 3) - P ( not even & not divisible by 3)
In the question stem, the phrase neither even nor a multiple of 3 means not even AND not a multiple of 3.
In your solution, the or in red misrepresents what the question stem is asking.
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