With no natural predators and expanses of green suburban neighborhoods that allow no hunting, wildlife officials estimate the New Jersey deer population to have grown to exceed 175,000
A. With no natural predators and expanses of green suburban neighborhoods that allow no hunting, wildlife officials estimate the New Jersey deer population to have
B. With no natural predators and with expanses of green suburban neighborhoods that do not allow hunting, wildlife officials' estimate of the deer population in New Jersey has
C. With no natural predators and with expanses of green suburban neighborhoods where there is no hunting, the deer population in New Jersey, wildlife officials estimate, has
D. Without natural predators and no hunting allowed in expanse of green suburban neighborhoods, New Jersey has a deer population that wildlife officials estimate to have
E. Without natural predators and with expanses of green neighborhoods where there is no hunting, wildlife officials in New Jersey estimate a deer population that has
my concern: i can eliminate A for the MODIFIER ERROR; however, i would like to understand the error in the initial part of A "With no natural predators and expanses of green suburban neighborhoods that allow no hunting"---> is the parallelism in A wrongly suggesting this idea: "With no natural predators and WITH NO expanses of green suburban neighborhoods that allow no hunting"?
does this DOUBLE NEGATIVE makes the initial part in A wrong?
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To convey this meaning, we would say:aditya8062 wrote:[is the parallelism in A wrongly suggesting this idea: "With no natural predators and WITH NO expanses of green suburban neighborhoods
With no natural predators OR expanses of green suburban neighborhoods.
Generally, not X or Y means not X AND not Y.
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A: predators and expanses...that allow no hunting
Here, the subject of allow could be construed as PREDATORS AND EXPANSES, implying that PREDATORS have the ability to allow hunting.
Not the intended meaning.
Eliminate A.
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i have a little query about parallelism across "AND" . don't we have the liberty to choose the structure from RIGHT to LEFT while considering the parallelism across "AND" .
for instance, if i say: people in America AND India..."-----> implies "people in America AND in India..."
so considering the same LOGIC can't i interpret THE CONSTRUCTION (the one i have asked in my first post) as "With no natural predators and WITH NO expanses of green suburban neighborhoods that allow no hunting". what is preventing me to view this construct like this?
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i have a little query about parallelism across "AND" . don't we have the liberty to choose the structure from RIGHT to LEFT while considering the parallelism across "AND" .
for instance, if i say: people in America AND India..."-----> implies "people in America AND in India..."
so considering the same LOGIC can't i interpret THE CONSTRUCTION (the one i have asked in my first post) as "With no natural predators and WITH NO expanses of green suburban neighborhoods that allow no hunting". what is preventing me to view this construct like this?
Guru, i can understand the meaning of the expression "expanses of green suburban neighborhoods" BUT is it possible to have "predators of green suburban neighborhoods"?predators and expanses of green suburban neighborhoods ...that allow no hunting
Here, the subject of allow could be construed as PREDATORS AND EXPANSES, implying that PREDATORS have the ability to allow hunting.
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Yes, a reader might wonder whether with no serves to modify both predators and expanses.aditya8062 wrote:Thanks Guru
i have a little query about parallelism across "AND" . don't we have the liberty to choose the structure from RIGHT to LEFT while considering the parallelism across "AND" .
for instance, if i say: people in America AND India..."-----> implies "people in America AND in India..."
so considering the same LOGIC can't i interpret THE CONSTRUCTION (the one i have asked in my first post) as "With no natural predators and WITH NO expanses of green suburban neighborhoods that allow no hunting". what is preventing me to view this construct like this?
But no X's and Y's is generally not a valid construction.
To convey no X's and no Y's, we generally say no X's OR Y's.
Incorrect: No friends and relatives were present.
Correct: No friends OR relatives were present.
For this reason, the intended meaning of with no natural predators and expanses is not crystal clear
Because predators has its own defining adjective (natural), I think that most readers will construe that the prepositional phrase attributed to expanses -- of green suburban neighborhoods -- does not also serve to modify predators.Guru, i can understand the meaning of the expression "expanses of green suburban neighborhoods" BUT is it possible to have "predators of green suburban neighborhoods"?
That said, it would be possible in another context to say predators of green suburban neighborhoods:
Predators of green suburban neighborhoods include the wolf and the coyote.
I wouldn't delve too deeply into the different ways an invalid construction can be interpreted.
More important is to recognize how the construction in the OA makes the intended meaning crystal clear:
With no natural predators and with expanses of green suburban neighborhoods..
Here, the addition of the with in red makes it crystal clear that no natural does NOT serve to modify expanses.
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now i understand itTo convey no X's and no Y's, we generally say no X's OR Y's.
Incorrect: No friends and relatives were present.
Correct: No friends OR relatives were present.
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