SC 1: The Western world's love affair with chocolate is well-documented: few people have been known to have tasted it for the first time without requesting more.
(A) few people have been known to have tasted it
(B) few having been known to taste it
(C) it has been tasted by few people
(D) few people have been known to taste it
(E) few people having tasted it
OA is D
SC 2: The fear of rabies is well founded; few people are known to recover from the disease after the appearance of the clinical symptoms.
(A) few people are known to recover from the disease after the appearance of the clinical symptoms
(B) few people are known to have recovered from the disease once the clinical symptoms have appeared
(C) there are few known people who have recovered from the disease once the clinical symptoms have appeared
(D) after the clinical symptoms appear, there are few known people who have recovered from the disease
(E) recovery from the disease is known for only a few people after the clinical symptoms appear
OA is B
my doubt: in SC 1 "present perfect infinitive" (to have tasted in option A) is wrong while the "present perfect infinitive" (to have recovered in option B) is correct in SC 2.how can we realize that when "present perfect infinitive" is correct?
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A: have been known to have tastedaditya8062 wrote:my doubt: in SC 1 "present perfect infinitive" (to have tasted in option A) is wrong
The perfect infinitive (to have tasted) cannot serve to modify the present perfect (have been known).
I discuss the difference between the present infinitive (to + VERB) and the perfect infinitive (to have + VERBed) here:
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Thanks Guru for linking me to that link
if "present perfect infinitive" is oki to tell the prior action then in the following sentence:few people have been known to have tasted it --->why is it wrong to sequence the event? "to have tasted it" must have happened sometime prior in the time line
if "present perfect infinitive" is oki to tell the prior action then in the following sentence:few people have been known to have tasted it --->why is it wrong to sequence the event? "to have tasted it" must have happened sometime prior in the time line
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The present perfect (has/have + VERBed) serves to express an action that affects the present but takes place at an INDEFINITE moment in the past.aditya8062 wrote:Thanks Guru for linking me to that link
if "present perfect infinitive" is oki to tell the prior action then in the following sentence:few people have been known to have tasted it --->why is it wrong to sequence the event? "to have tasted it" must have happened sometime prior in the time line
The perfect infinitive (to have + VERBed) serves to express an action that takes place before a FIXED moment in time (the moment when the main verb happens).
Since the perfect infinitive must modify an action that takes place at a fixed moment in time, it cannot serve to modify another perfect tense.
ALWAYS WRONG: has/have + VERBed + to have + VERBed.
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thanks Guru
i have one follow up question
doubt 1: will it be outright wrong to say: few people are known to recover from the disease
in other words what is the difference between
sentence 1: few people are known to recover from the disease
AND
sentence 2: few people are known to have recovered from the disease
doubt2: ALSO will sentence 2 have same meaning as sentence 3?
sentence 3 : few people have been known to recover from the disease
i have one follow up question
doubt 1: will it be outright wrong to say: few people are known to recover from the disease
in other words what is the difference between
sentence 1: few people are known to recover from the disease
AND
sentence 2: few people are known to have recovered from the disease
doubt2: ALSO will sentence 2 have same meaning as sentence 3?
sentence 3 : few people have been known to recover from the disease
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Here, the knowing and the recovering both take place in the present.aditya8062 wrote:thanks Guru
i have one follow up question
doubt 1: will it be outright wrong to say: few people are known to recover from the disease
in other words what is the difference between
sentence 1: few people are known to recover from the disease
Here, the knowing takes place in the present, while the recovering takes place in the past.AND
sentence 2: few people are known to have recovered from the disease
Here, the knowing and the recovering both take place in the past.b]doubt2:[/b] ALSO will sentence 2 have same meaning as sentence 3?
sentence 3 : few people have been known to recover from the disease
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Hi Guru
in the sentence 2
I eliminated choice B because I thought second "have" should have been "had" as in "once the clinical symptoms had appeared " since the symptoms appeared before the recovery
So shouldn't the order be -
1)appearance of symptoms (past perfect)
2)recovery(simple past or present perfect)
in the sentence 2
I eliminated choice B because I thought second "have" should have been "had" as in "once the clinical symptoms had appeared " since the symptoms appeared before the recovery
So shouldn't the order be -
1)appearance of symptoms (past perfect)
2)recovery(simple past or present perfect)
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B: few people are known to have recovered from the disease once the clinical symptoms have appearedAman Ahuja wrote:Hi Guru
in the sentence 2
I eliminated choice B because I thought second "have" should have been "had" as in "once the clinical symptoms had appeared " since the symptoms appeared before the recovery
So shouldn't the order be -
1)appearance of symptoms (past perfect)
2)recovery(simple past or present perfect)
Here, two perfect tense verbs (have recovered and have appeared) cannot serve to convey successive events.
Eliminate B.
I would discourage you from trying to fix incorrect answer choices.
Many incorrect answer choices cannot be easily fixed.
Instead, focus on identifying errors.
Identifying errors is the key to answering SCs correctly.
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But B is the Official answer according to the first post by aditya.
So are you saying that one of the other choices is correct or that all of the choices in sc2 are incorrect and we should ignore it.
But B is the Official answer according to the first post by aditya.
So are you saying that one of the other choices is correct or that all of the choices in sc2 are incorrect and we should ignore it.
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I would ignore SC2.Aman Ahuja wrote:Hi Mitch
But B is the Official answer according to the first post by aditya.
So are you saying that one of the other choices is correct or that all of the choices in sc2 are incorrect and we should ignore it.
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