Sentence Correction

By 1940, the pilot Jacqueline Cochran held seventeen official national and international speed records, and she earned them at a time when aviation was still so new for many of the planes she flew to be of dangerously experimental design.

(A) and she earned them at a time when aviation was still so new for many of the planes she flew to be
(B) earning them at a time that aviation was still so new for many of the planes she flew to be
(C) earning these at a time where aviation was still so new that many of the planes she flew were
(D) earned at a time in which aviation was still so new such that many of the planes she flew were
(E) earned at a time when aviation was still so new that many of the planes she flew were


the OG indicates that "the word earning takes the pilot herself ,not the records,as its subject.However, earning is close to the records,not to Jacqueline Cochran,making this sentence hard to process." I can understand the first part of explanation:earning takes the pilot herself,because both Manhattan and Ron talk about the usage of "commas+V-ing ".But I do not understand the last part" earning is close to the records,making this sentence hard to process".I mean, earning definitely modifies the subject JC,not records.So,why does the OG indicates" earning is close to the records"?[/quote]

most of the time the explanation of OG are confusing .the only thing i can say is : look for question in OG and not for explanation .here E seems best and rest choices have some blatant error
for instance in A the construction "so new for many of the planes she flew to be" is wrong
in B "so new for many of the planes she flew to be" is wrong also "time that aviation" is wrong
in C "time where aviation" is wrong
in D "so new such that many" is wrong

{A} INCORRECT; "and she earned" separates the action.. the underlined part is describing the clause stated before.
{B} INCORRECT; "time that aviation" is awkward construct; "to be of dangerous.." is awkward construct
{C} INCORRECT; "these" is wrong usage; "where" cannot be used to time.. it's used for places
{D} INCORRECT; "as still so new such that " is awkward..
{E} CORRECT.. ==> Verb+ed Modifies the object..

Thanks !I understand other errors,but I still want to figure out the usage of "commas+verb-ing", there are so many V-ing questions in GMAT.. Thanks again!

aditya8062 wrote:most of the time the explanation of OG are confusing .the only thing i can say is : look for question in OG and not for explanation .here E seems best and rest choices have some blatant error
for instance in A the construction "so new for many of the planes she flew to be" is wrong
in B "so new for many of the planes she flew to be" is wrong also "time that aviation" is wrong
in C "time where aviation" is wrong
in D "so new such that many" is wrong

joygmat wrote:Thanks !I understand other errors,but I still want to figure out the usage of "commas+verb-ing", there are so many V-ing questions in GMAT.. Thanks again!

aditya8062 wrote:most of the time the explanation of OG are confusing .the only thing i can say is : look for question in OG and not for explanation .here E seems best and rest choices have some blatant error
for instance in A the construction "so new for many of the planes she flew to be" is wrong
in B "so new for many of the planes she flew to be" is wrong also "time that aviation" is wrong
in C "time where aviation" is wrong
in D "so new such that many" is wrong

the rule for comma + verb ing is simple .it is always an adverbial modifier meaning that it always modifies the clause before the comma .doing so it tends to make sense with the subject of the previous clause

Slightly correcting the Aditya's Reply,

VER+ING is not always Adverbial.. but it can also be Adjectival

Adverbial ==> Modifies the complete preceding clause; For example: Cause & Effect

Adjectival ==> Modifies the Subject of the preceding clause. For example: Playing since the start of the match, Ram scored a ton.

Also, there's a VERb+ED form; this form modifies the object which is nearest to/before the the comma.

theCodeToGMAT wrote:Slightly correcting the Aditya's Reply,

VER+ING is not always Adverbial.. but it can also be Adjectival

Adverbial ==> Modifies the complete preceding clause; For example: Cause & Effect

Adjectival ==> Modifies the Subject of the preceding clause. For example: Playing since the start of the match, Ram scored a ton.

Also, there's a VERb+ED form; this form modifies the object which is nearest to/before the the comma.

kindly read my post .i have specifically written comma + verbing .i have never said just verbing or verbing + comma .having said that i reiterate that comma + verbing are always adverbial with just one exception that ron has talked of !!

1: COMMA + verb-ing modifier---> modifies the preceding clause.
Example: The engineer identified the problem, using the latest technology. (as you cited)

2: Verb-ing modifier ONLY ------> modifies the preceding NOUN or NOUN PHRASE only.
Example: John sat in the minivan carrying seven passengers. ("carrying seven passengers" modifies "minivans" and means that the minivan in which John sat had seven passengers)

2 also applies to verb-ed modifiers.

Discouraged by the long hours and low pay, my sister finally quit her job. Correct.

My sister, discouraged by the long hours and low pay, finally quit her job. Correct.

My sister finally quit her job, discouraged by the long hours and low pay. Incorrect as per GMAT rules (Refer to Regular English Vs GMAT section below). Here the verb-ed modifier is modifying the preceding noun "her job" which does not make sense.

RULES PART I: So really speaking these are the rules governing verb-ing & verb-ed modifiers:
Verb-ing modifiers
1: When separated by comma modifies the preceding clause
2: When not separated by comma modifiers the preceding noun or noun phrase

Verb-ed Modifiers
1: Always modify preceding noun or noun phrase.



REGULAR ENGLISH Vs. GMAT: The point to be noted here is that in regular English, comma + verb-ed modifiers modify the preceding clause. They behave in similar manner as do comma + verb-ing modifiers. However, GMAT goes against this practice as is evident from OG12#56.
Since Official Guides set up the rules here, we incorporate these rules in our course curriculum and questions. If down the line, OG modifies this question and changes the explanation, reflecting that comma + verb-ed modifiers modify preceding clause, then we will change our curriculum and questions based on this rule accordingly.
Here are a few examples from OG12 for verb-ed modifiers:
Verb-ed modifier modifying preceding noun = OG12#28, OG12#56.

In the light of this understanding, let us now analyze OG12#5

Diabetes ranks as the nation's third leading cause of death, surpassed only by heart disease and cancer.

In this sentence, it will not make sense for verb-ed modifier to modify the preceding noun "death". Death cannot be surpassed by anything. Hence, the verb-ed modifier is modifying noun phrase "the nation's third leading cause of death". Now the reference makes sense and the modifier establishes the fact this particular cause of death is "surpassed only by heart disease and cancer".
Notice that "diabetes" is the "the nation's third leading cause of death". The verb "ranks" stands as "is" meaning "diabetes" = "the nation's third leading cause of death". Hence it is logical for the verb-ed modifier to modify "diabetes" also because it is the "the nation's third leading cause of death". Structurally, the verb-ed modifier is modifying the preceding noun phrase "the nation's third leading cause of death".

RULES PART II: So far we discussed the role of the verb-ed and the verb-ing modifiers placed after the clause preceded or not by a comma. Now answer to your second question is that verb-ed modifier is a noun modifier. When placed in the beginning of the sentence followed by a comma, it always modifies the subject of the clause. Again let me cite your example only:
Discouraged by the long hours and low pay, my sister finally quit her job. (If you ask the modifier, who was discouraged, the answer will be "my sister").
In case of the verb-ing modifiers, when places before the clause separated by a comma they can modify either the subject or the entire clause, depending upon the context of the sentence.

Example: Singing a beautiful song, Mary mesmerized everyone present in the room. (So how did Mary mesmerize everyone? By singing a beautiful song. Here the verb-ing modifier is modifying the entire clause.)
Wearing a blue short, Joe killed the snake. (Here the verb-ing modifier is just giving additional information about how Joe was dressed. His wearing a blue shirt has nothing to do with killing the snake.)

THE DIFFERENCE: Now let us analyze the difference between these two sentences:
Diabetes ranks as the nation's third leading cause of the death, surpassed only by heart disease and cancer.

Diabetes ranks as the nation's third leading cause of the death, surpassing only by heart disease and cancer.
The first sentence is grammatically as well as logically correct. But the second is not grammatically correct. The first sentence can be rewritten as: Diabetes is the nation's third leading cause of the death that is surpassed only by heart disease and cancer.
Notice that the "that" clause is written in passive voice because diabetes is not the doer of the action "surpass". It is "heart disease and cancer" that are the doer of this action.
In the second sentence, "surpassing" modifies the preceding clause and hence associates with the subject diabetes. So if we say that Diabetes is X, surpassing only by Y and Z, it will be wrong because it is not the correct grammatical structure. Use of "by" is ungrammatical in this construction. If we remove "by" from here, then the intended meaning of the sentence will change. The sentence will then mean that Diabetes surpasses "heart diseases and cancer" but it is actually the other way round and that is why diabetes is "the nation's third leading cause of death".

1. When verb-ing modifier is separated from the clause using a comma, then this modifier modifies the preceding clause.
2. When verb-ing modifier is not separated from the clause using a comma, then it modifies the preceding noun.
3. When verb-ing modifier is placed in the beginning of the sentence followed by a comma, then it may modify either the subject of the clause or the entire clause, depending upon the context of the sentence.
4. Verb-ed modifier modifies the preceding noun or the noun phrase.
5. When verb-ed modifier is placed in the beginning of the clause followed by a comma, then it modifies the subject of the clause.

Thank u sooooo much!!!I'm writing down the summary and considering about these helpful points!

abhasjha wrote:1: COMMA + verb-ing modifier---> modifies the preceding clause.
Example: The engineer identified the problem, using the latest technology. (as you cited)

2: Verb-ing modifier ONLY ------> modifies the preceding NOUN or NOUN PHRASE only.
Example: John sat in the minivan carrying seven passengers. ("carrying seven passengers" modifies "minivans" and means that the minivan in which John sat had seven passengers)

2 also applies to verb-ed modifiers.

Discouraged by the long hours and low pay, my sister finally quit her job. Correct.

My sister, discouraged by the long hours and low pay, finally quit her job. Correct.

My sister finally quit her job, discouraged by the long hours and low pay. Incorrect as per GMAT rules (Refer to Regular English Vs GMAT section below). Here the verb-ed modifier is modifying the preceding noun "her job" which does not make sense.

RULES PART I: So really speaking these are the rules governing verb-ing & verb-ed modifiers:
Verb-ing modifiers
1: When separated by comma modifies the preceding clause
2: When not separated by comma modifiers the preceding noun or noun phrase

Verb-ed Modifiers
1: Always modify preceding noun or noun phrase.



REGULAR ENGLISH Vs. GMAT: The point to be noted here is that in regular English, comma + verb-ed modifiers modify the preceding clause. They behave in similar manner as do comma + verb-ing modifiers. However, GMAT goes against this practice as is evident from OG12#56.
Since Official Guides set up the rules here, we incorporate these rules in our course curriculum and questions. If down the line, OG modifies this question and changes the explanation, reflecting that comma + verb-ed modifiers modify preceding clause, then we will change our curriculum and questions based on this rule accordingly.
Here are a few examples from OG12 for verb-ed modifiers:
Verb-ed modifier modifying preceding noun = OG12#28, OG12#56.

In the light of this understanding, let us now analyze OG12#5

Diabetes ranks as the nation's third leading cause of death, surpassed only by heart disease and cancer.

In this sentence, it will not make sense for verb-ed modifier to modify the preceding noun "death". Death cannot be surpassed by anything. Hence, the verb-ed modifier is modifying noun phrase "the nation's third leading cause of death". Now the reference makes sense and the modifier establishes the fact this particular cause of death is "surpassed only by heart disease and cancer".
Notice that "diabetes" is the "the nation's third leading cause of death". The verb "ranks" stands as "is" meaning "diabetes" = "the nation's third leading cause of death". Hence it is logical for the verb-ed modifier to modify "diabetes" also because it is the "the nation's third leading cause of death". Structurally, the verb-ed modifier is modifying the preceding noun phrase "the nation's third leading cause of death".

RULES PART II: So far we discussed the role of the verb-ed and the verb-ing modifiers placed after the clause preceded or not by a comma. Now answer to your second question is that verb-ed modifier is a noun modifier. When placed in the beginning of the sentence followed by a comma, it always modifies the subject of the clause. Again let me cite your example only:
Discouraged by the long hours and low pay, my sister finally quit her job. (If you ask the modifier, who was discouraged, the answer will be "my sister").
In case of the verb-ing modifiers, when places before the clause separated by a comma they can modify either the subject or the entire clause, depending upon the context of the sentence.

Example: Singing a beautiful song, Mary mesmerized everyone present in the room. (So how did Mary mesmerize everyone? By singing a beautiful song. Here the verb-ing modifier is modifying the entire clause.)
Wearing a blue short, Joe killed the snake. (Here the verb-ing modifier is just giving additional information about how Joe was dressed. His wearing a blue shirt has nothing to do with killing the snake.)

THE DIFFERENCE: Now let us analyze the difference between these two sentences:
Diabetes ranks as the nation's third leading cause of the death, surpassed only by heart disease and cancer.

Diabetes ranks as the nation's third leading cause of the death, surpassing only by heart disease and cancer.
The first sentence is grammatically as well as logically correct. But the second is not grammatically correct. The first sentence can be rewritten as: Diabetes is the nation's third leading cause of the death that is surpassed only by heart disease and cancer.
Notice that the "that" clause is written in passive voice because diabetes is not the doer of the action "surpass". It is "heart disease and cancer" that are the doer of this action.
In the second sentence, "surpassing" modifies the preceding clause and hence associates with the subject diabetes. So if we say that Diabetes is X, surpassing only by Y and Z, it will be wrong because it is not the correct grammatical structure. Use of "by" is ungrammatical in this construction. If we remove "by" from here, then the intended meaning of the sentence will change. The sentence will then mean that Diabetes surpasses "heart diseases and cancer" but it is actually the other way round and that is why diabetes is "the nation's third leading cause of death".

1. When verb-ing modifier is separated from the clause using a comma, then this modifier modifies the preceding clause.
2. When verb-ing modifier is not separated from the clause using a comma, then it modifies the preceding noun.
3. When verb-ing modifier is placed in the beginning of the sentence followed by a comma, then it may modify either the subject of the clause or the entire clause, depending upon the context of the sentence.
4. Verb-ed modifier modifies the preceding noun or the noun phrase.
5. When verb-ed modifier is placed in the beginning of the clause followed by a comma, then it modifies the subject of the clause.