which one is correct idiom?
LIMIT TO X
LIMIT ON X
IDIOM: TO vs ON
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Hey Imskpwr,
We say "There's a limit to your love."
We say "A limit has been placed on how many chocolates one person can eat."
We say "There's a 10-minute limit on practices sessions."
So the answer is...both!
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We say "There's a limit to your love."
We say "A limit has been placed on how many chocolates one person can eat."
We say "There's a 10-minute limit on practices sessions."
So the answer is...both!
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Is it also possible to replace "limit to" with "limit on" or vice verse without any change in meaning?Tommy Wallach wrote:Hey Imskpwr,
We say "There's a limit to your love."
We say "A limit has been placed on how many chocolates one person can eat."
We say "There's a 10-minute limit on practices sessions."
So the answer is...both!
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Hey imskpwr,
Actually, no. There is a slight meaning difference:
"limit to" simply means that a limit exists.
"limit on" means that the limit has been placed there by someone.
Examples:
There is a limit to my patience. --> Correct.
There is a limit on my patience. --> Iffy. Did someone place that limit there? Not really.
There's a one hour limit on parking in this place. --> Correct. Someone placed the limit on the parking spot.
There's a one hour limit to parking in this place. --> Probably correct as well, but not quite as good.
Make sense? The GMAT would not test something this subtle, in my opinion (unless you have a question on hand that proves me wrong!).
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Actually, no. There is a slight meaning difference:
"limit to" simply means that a limit exists.
"limit on" means that the limit has been placed there by someone.
Examples:
There is a limit to my patience. --> Correct.
There is a limit on my patience. --> Iffy. Did someone place that limit there? Not really.
There's a one hour limit on parking in this place. --> Correct. Someone placed the limit on the parking spot.
There's a one hour limit to parking in this place. --> Probably correct as well, but not quite as good.
Make sense? The GMAT would not test something this subtle, in my opinion (unless you have a question on hand that proves me wrong!).
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THANKS!Tommy Wallach wrote:Hey imskpwr,
Actually, no. There is a slight meaning difference:
"limit to" simply means that a limit exists.
"limit on" means that the limit has been placed there by someone.
Examples:
There is a limit to my patience. --> Correct.
There is a limit on my patience. --> Iffy. Did someone place that limit there? Not really.
There's a one hour limit on parking in this place. --> Correct. Someone placed the limit on the parking spot.
There's a one hour limit to parking in this place. --> Probably correct as well, but not quite as good.
Make sense? The GMAT would not test something this subtle, in my opinion (unless you have a question on hand that proves me wrong!).
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As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to join other clans
WITH FEWER LIMITATIONS ON WATER ACCESS
HAVING FEWER LIMITATIONS TO WATER ACCESS
Which one will you opt in the above scenario?
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Hey Again,
Is this from an official question? Could you post the whole thing? The reason why I ask is that neither of these are particularly good. That doesn't mean one of them isn't right, but that's why it's ONLY good to practice with official questions (or questions from very reputable sources).
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Is this from an official question? Could you post the whole thing? The reason why I ask is that neither of these are particularly good. That doesn't mean one of them isn't right, but that's why it's ONLY good to practice with official questions (or questions from very reputable sources).
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YUP this Q is an Official Question. But the options are mine.Tommy Wallach wrote:Hey Again,
Is this from an official question? Could you post the whole thing? The reason why I ask is that neither of these are particularly good. That doesn't mean one of them isn't right, but that's why it's ONLY good to practice with official questions (or questions from very reputable sources).
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Just for an opinion, I need your reply.
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Hey Imskpwr,
As in you made up the answer choices yourself, or they are official answer choices? I really recommend you post the whole, real question. If you want to get into hypothetical from there, we can.
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As in you made up the answer choices yourself, or they are official answer choices? I really recommend you post the whole, real question. If you want to get into hypothetical from there, we can.
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As rainfall began to decrease in the SouthwestTommy Wallach wrote:Hey Imskpwr,
As in you made up the answer choices yourself, or they are official answer choices? I really recommend you post the whole, real question. If you want to get into hypothetical from there, we can.
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about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the
Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to
join other clans whose access to water was less
limited.
(A) whose access to water was less limited
(B) where there was access to water that was
less limited
(C) where they had less limited water access
(D) with less limitations on water access
(E) having less limitations to water access
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Hey Imskpwr,
This is the issue with hypothetical examples. In this case, getting through the answers is quite easy.
(B) "Where" needs to modify a place, but it's modifying "clans". Also, "that was less limited" is modifying "water," which makes no sense./
(C) "Where" needs to modify a place, but it's modifying "clans".
(D) Limitations are countable, so it should be "fewer".
(E) Limitations are countable, so it should be "fewer".
It's generally not a good idea to write your own answer choices and then ask "which one is better," because if something is wrong, it's just wrong. Both of your example answer choices are wrong, so you'd never have to choose between them.
Hope that helps!
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This is the issue with hypothetical examples. In this case, getting through the answers is quite easy.
(A) Perfect!As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the
Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to join other clans whose access to water was less
limited.
(A) whose access to water was less limited
(B) where there was access to water that was less limited
(C) where they had less limited water access
(D) with less limitations on water access
(E) having less limitations to water access
(B) "Where" needs to modify a place, but it's modifying "clans". Also, "that was less limited" is modifying "water," which makes no sense./
(C) "Where" needs to modify a place, but it's modifying "clans".
(D) Limitations are countable, so it should be "fewer".
(E) Limitations are countable, so it should be "fewer".
It's generally not a good idea to write your own answer choices and then ask "which one is better," because if something is wrong, it's just wrong. Both of your example answer choices are wrong, so you'd never have to choose between them.
Hope that helps!
-t
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Your above quoted words are the only reason I restrained myself from posting the ACTUAL Q in the very first place.Tommy Wallach wrote:Hey Imskpwr,
This is the issue with hypothetical examples. In this case, getting through the answers is quite easy.
(A) Perfect!As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the
Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to join other clans whose access to water was less
limited.
(A) whose access to water was less limited
(B) where there was access to water that was less limited
(C) where they had less limited water access
(D) with less limitations on water access
(E) having less limitations to water access
(B) "Where" needs to modify a place, but it's modifying "clans". Also, "that was less limited" is modifying "water," which makes no sense./
(C) "Where" needs to modify a place, but it's modifying "clans".
(D) Limitations are countable, so it should be "fewer".
(E) Limitations are countable, so it should be "fewer".
It's generally not a good idea to write your own answer choices and then ask "which one is better," because if something is wrong, it's just wrong. Both of your example answer choices are wrong, so you'd never have to choose between them.
Hope that helps!
-t
However, You are contradicting from your earlier response:
Let me again ask. Apart from "LESS", Is there any other issue in the OG options?Hey Imskpwr,
As in you made up the answer choices yourself, or they are official answer choices? I really recommend you post the whole, real question. If you want to get into hypothetical from there, we can.
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Hey imskpwr,
I'm not contradicting myself at all. I said we could get into hypotheticals after looking at the question. And we have. Your hypotheticals are both wrong. As for issues with d and e, there is the less/fewer issue, as well as meaning issues that were addressed in my first response to this thread.
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I'm not contradicting myself at all. I said we could get into hypotheticals after looking at the question. And we have. Your hypotheticals are both wrong. As for issues with d and e, there is the less/fewer issue, as well as meaning issues that were addressed in my first response to this thread.
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Hope you can elaborate those "MEANING ISSUES".Tommy Wallach wrote:Hey imskpwr,
I'm not contradicting myself at all. I said we could get into hypotheticals after looking at the question. And we have. Your hypotheticals are both wrong. As for issues with d and e, there is the less/fewer issue, as well as meaning issues that were addressed in my first response to this thread.
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I already did.
Hey imskpwr,
Actually, no. There is a slight meaning difference:
"limit to" simply means that a limit exists.
"limit on" means that the limit has been placed there by someone.
Examples:
There is a limit to my patience. --> Correct.
There is a limit on my patience. --> Iffy. Did someone place that limit there? Not really.
There's a one hour limit on parking in this place. --> Correct. Someone placed the limit on the parking spot.
There's a one hour limit to parking in this place. --> Probably correct as well, but not quite as good.
Make sense? The GMAT would not test something this subtle, in my opinion (unless you have a question on hand that proves me wrong!).
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