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Mean, Standard deviation

by psm12se » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:58 am
For a certain examination, a score of 58 was 2 standard deviation below the mean and a score of 98 was 3 standard deviations above the mean. What was the mean score for the examination?
A 74
B 76
C 78
D 80
E 82

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by Anurag@Gurome » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:07 am
psm12se wrote:For a certain examination, a score of 58 was 2 standard deviation below the mean and a score of 98 was 3 standard deviations above the mean. What was the mean score for the examination?
Say, mean score = M and standard deviation = D

Hence, 58 = M - 2S and 98 = M + 3S

So, (M + 3S) - (M - 2S) = 98 - 58
--> 5S = 40
--> S = 8

Hence, M = (58 + 2S) = (58 + 2*8) = (58 + 16) = 74

The correct answer is A.
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by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:10 am
psm12se wrote:For a certain examination, a score of 58 was 2 standard deviation below the mean and a score of 98 was 3 standard deviations above the mean. What was the mean score for the examination?
A 74
B 76
C 78
D 80
E 82
A little background on units of standard deviation:
If the SD is 4, then 1 unit of SD = 4
Similarly, 2 units of SD = 8
And 1.5 units of SD = 6
If the mean is 10 and the SD is 4, then we say that 18 is 2 units of SD above the mean since 10 + 2(4) = 18
Similarly, we say that 6 is 1 unit of SD below the mean since 10 - 4 = 6

For your question, we can let M=mean and let D=the standard deviation
So, 58 is 2 standard deviations below the mean translates into M - 2D = 58
and 98 is 3 standard deviations above the mean translates into M + 3D = 98

When we solve this system of equations, we get M=74 and D=8

So the answer is A

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by Ian Stewart » Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:17 am
psm12se wrote:For a certain examination, a score of 58 was 2 standard deviation below the mean and a score of 98 was 3 standard deviations above the mean. What was the mean score for the examination?
There's no need to solve a two equations/two unknowns problem here; if 58 and 98 are five standard deviations apart, the standard deviation is (98-58)/5 = 8. Thus the mean is 58 + (2)(8) = 74.
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by The Iceman » Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:50 am
psm12se wrote:For a certain examination, a score of 58 was 2 standard deviation below the mean and a score of 98 was 3 standard deviations above the mean. What was the mean score for the examination?
A 74
B 76
C 78
D 80
E 82
Another perspective.

Imagine this sentence appears as the last question on the GMAT and you have only 15-20 secs to mark the answer.

Just take the avg of the two numbers avg(58,98) = 78. Now our ans must be less than 78 as the mean has to be farther from 98 and closer to 58.

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by shreerajp99 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:21 am
If we start with ans choices here,say we consider C(78), we find that 98 and 58 are 20 apart from 78.This cant be our mean.
We go to 74 and see that ok,2 std deviations below mean=58 and 3 above mean = 98.So the mean is 74 and std deviation is 8.

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by cking6178 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:41 am
The Iceman wrote:
psm12se wrote:For a certain examination, a score of 58 was 2 standard deviation below the mean and a score of 98 was 3 standard deviations above the mean. What was the mean score for the examination?
A 74
B 76
C 78
D 80
E 82
Another perspective.

Imagine this sentence appears as the last question on the GMAT and you have only 15-20 secs to mark the answer.

Just take the avg of the two numbers avg(58,98) = 78. Now our ans must be less than 78 as the mean has to be farther from 98 and closer to 58.
Iceman, your method still leaves 2 answer choices...Ian solved it exactly the way I did & it took me less than a minute to work through the problem (ie...allows you to solve the problem efficiently, giving you more time to work on complicated problems)...Assuming that you understand what standard deviation means, you can simply obtain the range, which is 40 (98-58 = 40) and we know that we are 2 sd below and 3 above, so that means we have a 5 sd spread which we divide into 40, giving us a sd of 8. Verify this works by subtracting sd*3 (24) from the high score of 98 and making sure that is equal to adding sd*2 (16) to the low score of 58 and you get 74 in both cases, so the answer is A.

The explanation is wordy, but the math is quick and painless.

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by The Iceman » Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:55 am
cking6178 wrote:
The Iceman wrote:
psm12se wrote:For a certain examination, a score of 58 was 2 standard deviation below the mean and a score of 98 was 3 standard deviations above the mean. What was the mean score for the examination?
A 74
B 76
C 78
D 80
E 82
Another perspective.

Imagine this sentence appears as the last question on the GMAT and you have only 15-20 secs to mark the answer.

Just take the avg of the two numbers avg(58,98) = 78. Now our ans must be less than 78 as the mean has to be farther from 98 and closer to 58.
Iceman, your method still leaves 2 answer choices...Ian solved it exactly the way I did & it took me less than a minute to work through the problem (ie...allows you to solve the problem efficiently, giving you more time to work on complicated problems)...Assuming that you understand what standard deviation means, you can simply obtain the range, which is 40 (98-58 = 40) and we know that we are 2 sd below and 3 above, so that means we have a 5 sd spread which we divide into 40, giving us a sd of 8. Verify this works by subtracting sd*3 (24) from the high score of 98 and making sure that is equal to adding sd*2 (16) to the low score of 58 and you get 74 in both cases, so the answer is A.

The explanation is wordy, but the math is quick and painless.
Cking6178, I think you misinterpreted me. I never provided the solution anyway. All i told was that if faced in a time bound situation you could easily get rid of 3 options and make an educated guess.

By the way my solution is the same as Ian's :)

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by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:10 am
Ian Stewart wrote:
psm12se wrote:For a certain examination, a score of 58 was 2 standard deviation below the mean and a score of 98 was 3 standard deviations above the mean. What was the mean score for the examination?
There's no need to solve a two equations/two unknowns problem here; if 58 and 98 are five standard deviations apart, the standard deviation is (98-58)/5 = 8. Thus the mean is 58 + (2)(8) = 74.
Great solution, Ian. I was totally fixated on the algebraic approach. Fortunately, that approach isn't much longer than just applying some common sense (as you did).

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by lunarpower » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:32 am
notice one important theme at work here:
if you're given a numerical value of the standard deviation, it doesn't even matter that it's called "the standard deviation".

let me illustrate.
in this problem, let's remove all references to the standard deviation, and instead refer to it as the "pink flamingo".
then we have:
98 is 3 pink flamingoes above the mean --> 98 = mean + 3(PF)
58 is 2 pink flamingoes below the mean --> 58 = mean - 2(PF)

subtract these two equations:
98 - 58 = 5(PF)
40 = 5(PF)
8 = pink flamingo

the rest follows.

this is an interesting twist on the standard deviation: there are LOTS of gmatprep problems on which the value of the standard deviation is specified, and, uncannily enough, not one of those problems requires an actual understanding of what "standard deviation" means.
instead, on ALL of them, all you have to do is treat the SD as though it were some other random quantity (like "pink flamingo").

by contrast, on problems featuring a standard deviation that's NOT given a numerical value - such as problems on which you have to figure out whether the addition of certain numbers to a set will increase or decrease the standard deviation, without actually knowing the value of the standard deviation itself - you actually do need to understand the conceptual significance of the standard deviation itself.
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by buzzdeepak » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:38 am
Here is how I solved (I like to "see" things and try to draw pictures or tables as and when I can - nothing fancy, just quick and dirty)

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So, 5x = 98-58 = 40
x = 8
Therefore, 2x = 16
The answer, therefore, is 58+16 = 74

Nothing different than what all the experts have said earlier, just another way (sometimes a picture says a thousand words)

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by ngalinh » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:16 am
buzzdeepak wrote:Here is how I solved (I like to "see" things and try to draw pictures or tables as and when I can - nothing fancy, just quick and dirty)

Image
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So, 5x = 98-58 = 40
x = 8
Therefore, 2x = 16
The answer, therefore, is 58+16 = 74

Nothing different than what all the experts have said earlier, just another way (sometimes a picture says a thousand words)
Yes, I like your image, especially if you turn it so that 2x is below 3x :)