600+ George Washington

This topic has expert replies
User avatar
Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 113
Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:37 am
Thanked: 16 times
Followed by:4 members

600+ George Washington

by challenger63 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:01 am
Setting a precedent that lasted more than a century, George Washington disappointed the people insisting that he should run for a third term as president.

(A) insisting that he should
(B) insisting him to
(C) and their insistence that he
(D) who insisted that he
(E) who insisted him to

OA: D
Source: VeritasPrep SC #2
Last edited by challenger63 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:55 pm, edited 2 times in total.

GMAT/MBA Expert

User avatar
GMAT Instructor
Posts: 417
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:49 pm
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Thanked: 132 times
Followed by:93 members
GMAT Score:750

by brianlange77 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:45 pm
Assuming that 'terms' is supposed to be term?

For the benefit of those reviewing, also helpful if you can underline relevant section in original sentence.

Thanks!

-Brian
_________________
Brian Lange
Instructor, Manhattan GMAT
Expert Contributor to Beat The GMAT

Merci, Danke, Grazie, Gracias -- Whichever way you say it, if you found my post helpful, please click on the 'thank' icon in the top right corner of this post.

And I encourage you to click on 'follow' to track all my posts -- all the cool kids are doing it! :-)

User avatar
Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 113
Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:37 am
Thanked: 16 times
Followed by:4 members

by challenger63 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:56 pm
brianlange77 wrote:Assuming that 'terms' is supposed to be term?
For the benefit of those reviewing, also helpful if you can underline relevant section in original sentence.

Thanks!-Brian
Corrected. Thanks.
If you find my post useful, please don't hesitate to click thanks button.


I am not an expert, so I can make mistakes. If you see a mistake, please notify me.

User avatar
Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 192
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:04 pm
Thanked: 20 times
Followed by:5 members
GMAT Score:650

by bpolley00 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:27 am
Will Someone clarify why it is D instead of E. I got D, but I cannot explain it other than it looks/ sounds better than E. I would also say that they insisted that he run rather than for him to run because to run could insinuate to actually run as in running rather than a political office? Clarification would be nice.

GMAT/MBA Expert

User avatar
GMAT Instructor
Posts: 451
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:58 am
Location: New York City
Thanked: 188 times
Followed by:120 members
GMAT Score:770

by Tommy Wallach » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:45 am
Hey Bpolley,

This is the closest place to where your "intuitive" takes on SC are rewarded. This issue is known as an idiomatic issue...in other words, it's just the way English is spoken.

HOWEVER, it can still be described grammatically!

(D) who insisted that he
(E) who insisted him to

In answer choice (E), "him" is the object of "insisted." However, the verb "to insist" is not transitive, meaning it does not take an object in English. You can't say: "I insist you!" in the same way you can say "I implore you" or "I punch you."

In reality, "to insist" is a verb that takes the subjunctive construction. It must always be followed by the word "that" if you're going to have a clause after it. For example, you are allowed to say:

I insist!

But you can't say:

I insist he go to the store.

You must say:

I insist THAT he go to the store.

Why? Because the verb is taking the subjunctive. What's the subjunctive? Well look at that last example, particularly the verb "go." Notice that it's not the usual verb we'd expect here in English:

He goes to the store.

So why did we use "go" in the example? Because that's the subjunctive! Other examples of it:

I demand that he go to the store.
I require that he go to the store.
I request that he go to the store.

Hope that helps!

-t
Tommy Wallach, Company Expert
ManhattanGMAT

If you found this posting mega-helpful, feel free to thank and/or follow me!

User avatar
Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 192
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:04 pm
Thanked: 20 times
Followed by:5 members
GMAT Score:650

by bpolley00 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:06 am
Tommy,

That was quite possibly the best explanation ever. Immediately bookmarked. I know the GMAT tests this type of question quite a bit, I just never was able to distinguish the correct answer other than merely using intution. It is good to know WHY. Thanks so much Tommy.

GMAT/MBA Expert

User avatar
GMAT Instructor
Posts: 451
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:58 am
Location: New York City
Thanked: 188 times
Followed by:120 members
GMAT Score:770

by Tommy Wallach » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:11 am
Glad to help!

-t
Tommy Wallach, Company Expert
ManhattanGMAT

If you found this posting mega-helpful, feel free to thank and/or follow me!

Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts
Posts: 48
Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:16 pm
Thanked: 2 times

by whats_in_the_store » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:19 am
Whooa, what an explanation, even I got E, before it all started making sense!

User avatar
Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 141
Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:25 pm
Location: NY
Thanked: 5 times
Followed by:1 members

by hutch27 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:34 am
i just saw "who insisted him to " and i immediately knew E was wrong because him is the subject meaning that you would have to use whom to refer to an object... is this the right logic?

GMAT/MBA Expert

User avatar
GMAT Instructor
Posts: 417
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:49 pm
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Thanked: 132 times
Followed by:93 members
GMAT Score:750

by brianlange77 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:52 pm
hutch27 wrote:i just saw "who insisted him to " and i immediately knew E was wrong because him is the subject meaning that you would have to use whom to refer to an object... is this the right logic?
Hutch27 -- It's more that the correct idiomatic usage is "insist THAT", but you are also correct that in this instance, we're looking for subject usage (He) not object usage (him.)

Make sense?

-Brian
_________________
Brian Lange
Instructor, Manhattan GMAT
Expert Contributor to Beat The GMAT

Merci, Danke, Grazie, Gracias -- Whichever way you say it, if you found my post helpful, please click on the 'thank' icon in the top right corner of this post.

And I encourage you to click on 'follow' to track all my posts -- all the cool kids are doing it! :-)