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Repelled by bodily punishments

by heymayank08 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:56 am
Repelled by bodily punishments such as maiming and branding, the idea of penitentiaries were reforms of the penal system by Quakers.
(A) the idea of penitentiaries were reforms of the penal system by Quakers
(B) penitentiaries were ideas for reform of the penal system suggested by Quakers
(C) Quakers suggested the penitentiary as a reform of the penal system
(D) Quakers suggested that the penal system be reformed as penitentiaries
(E) the penitentiary was suggested to be a reform of the penal system by Quakers

OA c







pls explain why nt d??

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by sam2304 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:20 am
I have the same doubt as well :) Good one. Lets wait for some other people to throw us some light.

C seems fine but I couldn't find any reason to eliminate D. Moreover I am not very sure about the meaning difference in C and D :(
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by heymayank08 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:30 am
sam2304 wrote:I have the same doubt as well :) Good one. Lets wait for some other people to throw us some light.

C seems fine but I couldn't find any reason to eliminate D. Moreover I am not very sure about the meaning difference in C and D :(
moreover D also has the commanding word effect which is actually needed in this sentence...



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by [email protected] » Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:36 am
Repelled by bodily punishments such as maiming and branding, the idea of penitentiaries were reforms of the penal system by Quakers.

(A) the idea of penitentiaries were reforms of the penal system by Quakers
(B) penitentiaries were ideas for reform of the penal system suggested by Quakers
(C) Quakers suggested the penitentiary as a reform of the penal system
(D) Quakers suggested that the penal system be reformed as penitentiaries
(E) the penitentiary was suggested to be a reform of the penal system by Quakers

Yes the OA comes down to the options C and D. Even I chose D but I also marked that the option D changes the meaning of the sentence.


Option C says that Quakers suggested that penitentiary some thing is already a reform of the penal system.

Option D says that Quakers suggested that the penal system be reformed as penitentiaries.

The whole system cannot be reformed as penitentiaries.

The option D changes the meaning of the sentence.

I fell for option D as the option D is of subjunctive mood. There should be a subjunctive used whenever suggested is present with 'that'.

But the answer is C and not D.

This is again meaning question again and it wins against the technicalities of grammar.

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by Bill@VeritasPrep » Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:40 am
D says "the penal system be reformed as penitentiaries," which is essentially an agreement error between two nouns. You have a singular noun being reformed as a plural noun.
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by ice_rush » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:32 am
Hi Bill,
shouldn't suggest be followed by that?

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by Bill@VeritasPrep » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:32 pm
ice_rush wrote:Hi Bill,
shouldn't suggest be followed by that?
You can certainly suggest a noun.

"When he asked how he should prepare for the GMAT, I suggested a Veritas course."

With suggest that, it should be followed by a subjunctive verb:

"When he asked how he should prepare for the GMAT, I suggested that he take a Veritas course."
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