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by mundasingh123 » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:53 am
Two works published in 1984 demonstrate
contrasting approaches to writing the history of
United States women. Buel and Buel's biography of
Mary Fish (1736-1818) makes little effort to place
her story in the context of recent historiography on
women. Lebsock, meanwhile, attempts not only to
write the history of women in one southern
community, but also to redirect two decades of
historiographical debate as to whether women
gained or lost status in the nineteenth century as
compared with the eighteenth century. Although
both books offer the reader the opportunity to
assess this controversy regarding women's status,
only Lebsock's deals with it directly. She examines
several different aspects of women's status, helping
to refi ne and resolve the issues. She concludes that
while women gained autonomy in some areas,
especially in the private sphere, they lost it in many
aspects of the economic sphere. More importantly,
she shows that the debate itself depends on frame
of reference: in many respects, women lost power
in relation to men, for example, as certain jobs
(delivering babies, supervising schools) were taken
over by men. Yet women also gained power in
comparison with their previous status, owning a
higher proportion of real estate, for example. In
contrast, Buel and Buel's biography provides ample
raw material for questioning the myth, fostered by
some historians, of a colonial golden age in the
eighteenth century but does not give the reader
much guidance in analyzing the controversy over
women's status.
77. The author of the passage mentions the supervision of
schools primarily in order to
(A) remind readers of the role education played in
the cultural changes of the nineteenth century in
the United States
(B) suggest an area in which nineteenth-century
American women were relatively free to exercise
power
(C) provide an example of an occupation for which
accurate data about women's participation are
diffi cult to obtain
(D) speculate about which occupations were
considered suitable for United States women of
the nineteenth century
(E) illustrate how the answers to questions about
women's status depend on particular contexts
I agree with the OA
But, What if there were an option
(F) to give an example of an occupation in which women have relinquished power to men

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by cans » Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:08 am
IMO E?
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by mundasingh123 » Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:24 am
cans wrote:IMO E?
U nailed it but this defeats the purpose why i set this post
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by vikram4689 » Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:43 am
Option F that you mentioned would be incorrect because does not explains why the author mentioned supervision of primary schools. This is an inference question and in these type of question and options that describes WHY aspect is correct and that describes WHAT aspect is incorrect. Here E describes WHY aspect and F describes WHAT aspect.
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by krishnasty » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:06 pm
IMO B

if there was a option f, i guess, it would have been a close call. but then again, B would have been a better reply coz the question is more bout comparison of the power in different times. i quote-
"....in many respects, women lost power
in relation to men, for example, as certain jobs
(delivering babies, supervising schools) were taken
over by men. Yet women also gained power in
comparison with their previous status,...."


the option B is more powerful as it specifically mentions the role of a 19th century women and the change that took place.

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by mundasingh123 » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:08 pm
krishnasty wrote:IMO B

if there was a option f, i guess, it would have been a close call. but then again, B would have been a better reply coz the question is more bout comparison of the power in different times. i quote-
"....in many respects, women lost power
in relation to men, for example, as certain jobs
(delivering babies, supervising schools) were taken
over by men. Yet women also gained power in
comparison with their previous status,...."


the option B is more powerful as it specifically mentions the role of a 19th century women and the change that took place.

i hope my explanation is to the point.
first you reply to my question . the gmat rc that you posted belongs to gmatprep or og ?
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by krishnasty » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:12 pm
mundasingh123 wrote:
krishnasty wrote:IMO B

if there was a option f, i guess, it would have been a close call. but then again, B would have been a better reply coz the question is more bout comparison of the power in different times. i quote-
"....in many respects, women lost power
in relation to men, for example, as certain jobs
(delivering babies, supervising schools) were taken
over by men. Yet women also gained power in
comparison with their previous status,...."


the option B is more powerful as it specifically mentions the role of a 19th century women and the change that took place.

i hope my explanation is to the point.
first you reply to my question . the gmat rc that you posted belongs to gmatprep or og ?
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by chilledlife » Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:34 pm
depends on frame
of reference: in many respects, women lost power
in relation to men, for example, as certain jobs
(delivering babies, supervising schools)



"Supervision of schools" is an example where 19th century women gave up or lost their power as compared to 18th century women. So I am inclined to go with E because E talks about women's status depending on particular contexts. The example specifically talks about how women lost power which is why I do not think B is correct.

IMO regarding option F which mundasingh added to the question, an RC expects us to interpret the actual reason behind the question and not just the literal answer. So while F seems accurate, it is not the main intent behind the question. Which is why I would pick E.

Now I'm really curious about how B was picked as the solution. This is because 19th century women did not have any power ie lost their power as compared to 18th century women with respect to supervision of schools. So how does this link up to option B??

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by vikram4689 » Sun Jun 05, 2011 7:21 pm
chilledlife wrote:
IMO regarding option F which mundasingh added to the question, an RC expects us to interpret the actual reason behind the question and not just the literal answer. So while F seems accurate, it is not the main intent behind the question. Which is why I would pick E.

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by krishnasty » Sun Jun 05, 2011 8:52 pm
chilledlife wrote:depends on frame
of reference: in many respects, women lost power
in relation to men, for example, as certain jobs
(delivering babies, supervising schools)



"Supervision of schools" is an example where 19th century women gave up or lost their power as compared to 18th century women. So I am inclined to go with E because E talks about women's status depending on particular contexts. The example specifically talks about how women lost power which is why I do not think B is correct.

IMO regarding option F which mundasingh added to the question, an RC expects us to interpret the actual reason behind the question and not just the literal answer. So while F seems accurate, it is not the main intent behind the question. Which is why I would pick E.

Now I'm really curious about how B was picked as the solution. This is because 19th century women did not have any power ie lost their power as compared to 18th century women with respect to supervision of schools. So how does this link up to option B??
My bad...i didnt read the options correctly.
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by LIL » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:27 am
mundasingh123 wrote:
cans wrote:IMO E?
U nailed it but this defeats the purpose why i set this post
making up answers and then speculating on whether or not they might be correct doesn't seem like a good strategy. it's almost as bad as, idk, arguing with official answers.

first of all, the answer you make up will invariably be both incorrect and not something the GMAC would have put on the test -- not even as an incorrect answer. if you could make up an answer that would be correct, i expect you would either come up with the actual answer or, at least, not need to worry about "beating the GMAT."

second of all, your answer...is not an answer. why are you speculating? it's like saying "what if the answer to every quant problem on the GMAT is A?" well it's not. so...yeah.

i think it's better to spend your time focusing on the real answers, rather than speculating about how the GMAT would look if you wrote the test.

also, if there was an option f, it would be wrong. as someone else mentioned, we're not looking for the literal answer, but for the "reason" -- or the "meaning."

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by mundasingh123 » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:20 am
@LIL
https://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2011/06 ... at-retake/
i was just applying the point think like the testmaker
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by LIL » Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:38 pm
mundasingh123 wrote:@LIL
https://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2011/06 ... at-retake/
i was just applying the point think like the testmaker
well, there's a big difference between trying to understand where the makers of the GMAT are coming from...and trying to rewrite the test yourself.

as i said before, the reason it's dangerous to come up with your own answers is because 1) they are not real answers, and 2) you are highly unlikely to come up with anything that's close to what the test makers would come up with.

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by mundasingh123 » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:45 pm
LIL wrote:
mundasingh123 wrote:@LIL
https://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2011/06 ... at-retake/
i was just applying the point think like the testmaker
well, there's a big difference between trying to understand where the makers of the GMAT are coming from...and trying to rewrite the test yourself.

as i said before, the reason it's dangerous to come up with your own answers is because 1) they are not real answers, and 2) you are highly unlikely to come up with anything that's close to what the test makers would come up with.
I am trying to understand what seperates the OA from a "literal " answer
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