After 12 hours, hostage negotiators finally resolved a situation involving three bank robbers and 35 hostages; their efforts were rewarded generously by the grateful bank management.
A. involving three bank robbers and 35 hostages; their
B. involving three bank robbers and 35 hostages; the hostages'
C. which involved three bank robbers and 35 hostages; their
D. that involved three bank robbers and 35 hostages; the negotiators'
E. involving three bank robbers and 35 hostages; the negotiators'
[spoiler]Source : Not from any CAT, came across in some trial material.[/spoiler]
After 12 hours, hostage
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Target2009 wrote:After 12 hours, hostage negotiators finally resolved a situation involving three bank robbers and 35 hostages; their efforts were rewarded generously by the grateful bank management.
A. involving three bank robbers and 35 hostages; their-------"use of their is ambiguous.It can refer to robbers,hostages or negotiators"
B. involving three bank robbers and 35 hostages; the hostages'----changes the meaning of the sentence.Negotiators must have been rewarded
C. which involved three bank robbers and 35 hostages; their-------"use of their is ambiguous.It can refer to robbers,hostages or negotiators"
D. that involved three bank robbers and 35 hostages; the negotiators'
E. involving three bank robbers and 35 hostages; the negotiators'
[spoiler]Source : Not from any CAT, came across in some trial material.[/spoiler]
Between D & E, E is concise.
IMO : E
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Its between D and E , i choose D .Target2009 wrote:After 12 hours, hostage negotiators finally resolved a situation involving three bank robbers and 35 hostages; their efforts were rewarded generously by the grateful bank management.
A. involving three bank robbers and 35 hostages; their
B. involving three bank robbers and 35 hostages; the hostages'
C. which involved three bank robbers and 35 hostages; their
D. that involved three bank robbers and 35 hostages; the negotiators'
E. involving three bank robbers and 35 hostages; the negotiators'
[spoiler]Source : Not from any CAT, came across in some trial material.[/spoiler]
Whats the OA ?
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OA : E
Please tell me what difference ";" made on your analysis for this sentence.
Please tell me what difference ";" made on your analysis for this sentence.
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According to MGMAT SC guide, ";" connects two independent clauses which are logically dependent on each other.Target2009 wrote:OA : E
Please tell me what difference ";" made on your analysis for this sentence.
We can see all the five options stick to the rule.
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Furthermore, I would like to know the explanation given for rejecting DTarget2009 wrote:OA : E
Please tell me what difference ";" made on your analysis for this sentence.
am I correct in rejecting D or is there some other reason?
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prachich1987 wrote:Furthermore, I would like to know the explanation given for rejecting DTarget2009 wrote:OA : E
Please tell me what difference ";" made on your analysis for this sentence.
am I correct in rejecting D or is there some other reason?
Well , i m still not sure about the rejection of choice D over E . Being concise is definately not the only reason , its because "involving" is prefered over "that involved". I m not sure about the reason for the same , but its something to do about the use of essential modifier "that", may be the use is incorrect in this case .
Please guys enlighten me on this issue .
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Looking for some expert reply.
AIM GMAT wrote:prachich1987 wrote:Furthermore, I would like to know the explanation given for rejecting DTarget2009 wrote:OA : E
Please tell me what difference ";" made on your analysis for this sentence.
am I correct in rejecting D or is there some other reason?
Well , i m still not sure about the rejection of choice D over E . Being concise is definately not the only reason , its because "involving" is prefered over "that involved". I m not sure about the reason for the same , but its something to do about the use of essential modifier "that", may be the use is incorrect in this case .
Please guys enlighten me on this issue .
Thanks & Regards,
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Hey guys,
I can't see where D is "wrong", so this may not be a perfect question. I'd say that, if anything, there's a pretty good argument for D in that "that" clearly modifies "the situation", whereas "involving" could theoretically correspond to the negotiators (the negotiators involved the hostages and robbers in solving the situation).
If you made that decision (D over E because of the modification of "the situation"), I'd say you're thinking the right way. The only justification I could see for E is "brevity", but that rationale typically belies another true error that lends itself to a longer, more cumbersome sentence. I don't think D really does that...
I can't see where D is "wrong", so this may not be a perfect question. I'd say that, if anything, there's a pretty good argument for D in that "that" clearly modifies "the situation", whereas "involving" could theoretically correspond to the negotiators (the negotiators involved the hostages and robbers in solving the situation).
If you made that decision (D over E because of the modification of "the situation"), I'd say you're thinking the right way. The only justification I could see for E is "brevity", but that rationale typically belies another true error that lends itself to a longer, more cumbersome sentence. I don't think D really does that...
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I got your point BrianBrian@VeritasPrep wrote:Hey guys,
I can't see where D is "wrong", so this may not be a perfect question. I'd say that, if anything, there's a pretty good argument for D in that "that" clearly modifies "the situation", whereas "involving" could theoretically correspond to the negotiators (the negotiators involved the hostages and robbers in solving the situation).
If you made that decision (D over E because of the modification of "the situation"), I'd say you're thinking the right way. The only justification I could see for E is "brevity", but that rationale typically belies another true error that lends itself to a longer, more cumbersome sentence. I don't think D really does that...
In E INVOLVING can modify negotiators.Negotiators involved robbers etc.
@ target2009---can you please advise OE along with the source?
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I would go with D.
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Hi Brian cant we eliminate the possibility you stated above because Had this been true the modifier would have been close to the noun :negotiatorsBrian@VeritasPrep wrote:Hey guys,
"involving" could theoretically correspond to the negotiators (the negotiators involved the hostages and robbers in solving the situation).
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in this sentence
how would you apply
1) That involved .. - i chose this one becuase were was used in the other part of the sentence
2) involving - ruled this one out becuase involving starts in past continues in present and were is used in the other part
please explain
how would you apply
1) That involved .. - i chose this one becuase were was used in the other part of the sentence
2) involving - ruled this one out becuase involving starts in past continues in present and were is used in the other part
please explain
Brian@VeritasPrep wrote:Hey guys,
I can't see where D is "wrong", so this may not be a perfect question. I'd say that, if anything, there's a pretty good argument for D in that "that" clearly modifies "the situation", whereas "involving" could theoretically correspond to the negotiators (the negotiators involved the hostages and robbers in solving the situation).
If you made that decision (D over E because of the modification of "the situation"), I'd say you're thinking the right way. The only justification I could see for E is "brevity", but that rationale typically belies another true error that lends itself to a longer, more cumbersome sentence. I don't think D really does that...