Sentence Correction

mundasingh123 wrote:According to United States Air Force officials, a cannon shooting dead chickens at airplanes has proved helpful to demonstrate what kind of damage can result when jets fly into a flock of large birds.
(A) shooting dead chickens at airplanes has proved helpful to demonstrate
(B) shooting dead chickens at airplanes has proved itself helpful as a demonstration of
(C) shooting dead chickens at airplanes proves itself helpful as demonstrating
(D) that shoots dead chickens at airplanes proves itself helpful to demonstrate
(E) that shoots dead chickens at airplanes has proved helpful in demonstrating
The OA is E

I chose A.
Helpful to + verb is also correct.
What is the difference between A and E?

uwhusky wrote:Actually you can eliminate A in the initial 2/3 split.

a cannon "shooting..." compare to a cannon "that shoots", verbal "shooting" is illogical.

uwhusky wrote:https://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2010/06/ ... -and-verbs

mundasingh123 wrote:

uwhusky wrote:Actually you can eliminate A in the initial 2/3 split.

a cannon "shooting..." compare to a cannon "that shoots", verbal "shooting" is illogical.

Are we talking about "VERBALS"
Whats a verbal?

niksworth wrote:

mundasingh123 wrote:

uwhusky wrote:Actually you can eliminate A in the initial 2/3 split.

If we modify the statement by including the relative pronoun, we immediately see the problem inherent in using the participle form here. - a cannon that are/were shooting dead chickens at airplanes has proved helpful. This shows that the use of participle form is not valid. This error is corrected in option E.

Hey i am not getting u
why doesnt "a cannon that is shooting dead chickens has proved helpful" make sense?
is it because of the change in meaning?
Is this some kind of a test to check whether the use of a participle here is appropriate or not.

Are we supposed to replace -ing participle ,whenever we find it , with "that was/is -ing"

mundasingh123 wrote:

niksworth wrote:

mundasingh123 wrote:

uwhusky wrote:Actually you can eliminate A in the initial 2/3 split.

If we modify the statement by including the relative pronoun, we immediately see the problem inherent in using the participle form here. - a cannon that are/were shooting dead chickens at airplanes has proved helpful. This shows that the use of participle form is not valid. This error is corrected in option E.

Hey i am not getting u
why doesnt "a cannon that is shooting dead chickens has proved helpful" make sense?
is it because of the change in meaning?
Is this some kind of a test to check whether the use of a participle here is appropriate or not.

Are we supposed to replace -ing participle ,whenever we find it , with "that was/is -ing"

Not always, but sometimes yes.
Check this link out for more details on reduced relative clauses and when can the relative pronoun be dropped:
https://www.eslgold.com/grammar/reduced_ ... auses.html

niksworth wrote:

mundasingh123 wrote:

niksworth wrote:

mundasingh123 wrote:

uwhusky wrote:Actually you can eliminate A in the initial 2/3 split.

If we modify the statement by including the relative pronoun, we immediately see the problem inherent in using the participle form here. - a cannon that are/were shooting dead chickens at airplanes has proved helpful. This shows that the use of participle form is not valid. This error is corrected in option E.

Hey i am not getting u
why doesnt "a cannon that is shooting dead chickens has proved helpful" make sense?
is it because of the change in meaning?
Is this some kind of a test to check whether the use of a participle here is appropriate or not.

Are we supposed to replace -ing participle ,whenever we find it , with "that was/is -ing"

Not always, but sometimes yes.
Check this link out for more details on reduced relative clauses and when can the relative pronoun be dropped:
https://www.eslgold.com/grammar/reduced_ ... auses.html

Hey i found the following at the particular url.
The relative pronoun can be deleted if there is a new subject and verb following it:

A. This is the house that Jack built.
B. This is the house Jack built.
A. The person whom you see is my father.
B. The person you see is my father.

A. This is the place where I live.
B. This is the place I live.

A. I don't know the reason why she is late.
B. I don't know the reason she is late

(Also : I don't know why she is late. )

A. The woman whom he likes is married.
B. The woman he likes is married.

Do you think the statements in the bold are correct?
Also inviting the rest of the junta for their comments

mundasingh123 wrote:According to United States Air Force officials, a cannon shooting dead chickens at airplanes has proved helpful to demonstrate what kind of damage can result when jets fly into a flock of large birds.
(A) shooting dead chickens at airplanes has proved helpful to demonstrate
(B) shooting dead chickens at airplanes has proved itself helpful as a demonstration of
(C) shooting dead chickens at airplanes proves itself helpful as demonstrating
(D) that shoots dead chickens at airplanes proves itself helpful to demonstrate
(E) that shoots dead chickens at airplanes has proved helpful in demonstrating
The OA is E

I chose A.
Helpful to + verb is also correct.
What is the difference between A and E?

paes wrote:Thanks Guru for your prompt and clean response.

Here more of the guys are confuse whether the use of present participle in A is correct.

E is using 'that' while A is using 'present participle'.
both the usage are correct here or only usage of 'that' (E) is correct,

Please put some light on it.