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Many languages in the world...

by g_beatthegmat » Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:46 am

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Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly because of the difficulty of distinguishing between a language and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found about five thousand.

A) and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found

B) and the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried counting typically finding

C) and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting it typically find

D) or the sub-languages or dialects within them, but those who tried to count them typically found

E) or the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried to count typically finding

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by sulabh » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:08 am

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answer is A.
'Between' in the sentence requires 'and' so only A,B & C are left.

Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly because of the difficulty of distinguishing between a language and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found about five thousand.
A) and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found (CORRECT)

B) and the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried counting typically finding (refers to language so should be 'it')

C) and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting it typically find (should be 'them' as it refers to 'how many languages')


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by g_beatthegmat » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:19 am

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thanks sulabh!

So if (c) had "them" instead of "it"
and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting them typically find

then would this have been preferred over (a)?

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by sulabh » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:28 am

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Nopes even then I would have gone with A.Becuase of 'have found'
Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly because of the difficulty of distinguishing between a language and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found about five thousand.

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by g_beatthegmat » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:42 am

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Somehow my confusion is around (a)'s "tried to count" and (c)'s "tried counting". I feel the rest of the part is good.

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by gmatinjuly » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:56 am

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Usage : Between a and b (ekiminate D/E)

LANGUAGE AND ITS DIALECTS…so eliminate B

Those who have tried counting (it)……tried counting languages …plural ….C is incorrect.

Have is right usage and so A is corrct

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Re: Many languages in the world...

by uptowngirl92 » Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:52 pm

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g_beatthegmat wrote:Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly because of the difficulty of distinguishing between a language and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found about five thousand.

A) and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found

B) and the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried counting typically finding

C) and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting it typically find

D) or the sub-languages or dialects within them, but those who tried to count them typically found

E) or the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried to count typically finding
Between A,B,C..We need to find out whther singular or plural is reqd..
My mistake was I considered the language in blue as the subject and it being singular proceeded with the question..but the lanuages in red is the subject :( I keep missing out on what the subject is..how did u guys identify?

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by arora007 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:11 am

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g_beatthegmat wrote:thanks sulabh!

So if (c) had "them" instead of "it"
and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting them typically find

then would this have been preferred over (a)?
Interesting... well...
have tried is parallel to have found , so i would still have gone with A.
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by Shawshank » Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:30 pm

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sulabh wrote:answer is A.
'Between' in the sentence requires 'and' so only A,B & C are left.

Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly because of the difficulty of distinguishing between a language and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found about five thousand.
A) and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found (CORRECT)

B) and the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried counting typically finding (refers to language so should be 'it')

C) and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting it typically find (should be 'them' as it refers to 'how many languages')


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Still unclear..
How can we be sure that the "it" is pointing to language.... why cant "them" point to the languages... I was thinking for a while before I thght "them: sounds more appropriate.. although the answer B sounds awkward..

Anyone who can explain,,,

If the source is 1000SC then is it possible that all answers are incorrect.. ???
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by BastiG » Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:34 pm

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Manhattan Gmat Prep Sentence Correction mentions in the idiom list, that the verb (try + -ing) is suspect, but the verb (try + to + infinitiv) is right. So if both A and C seem correct, I always would prefer (have tried to count) over (have tried counting).

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by rohu27 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:38 am

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re-opening an old thread.

I understand how to get to the OA but can someone please explain me the below?
what does those refer to here? (is it nobody?)

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by atulmangal » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:37 am

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rohu27 wrote:re-opening an old thread.

I understand how to get to the OA but can someone please explain me the below?
what does those refer to here? (is it nobody?)
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Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly because of the difficulty of distinguishing between a language and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found about five thousand.
If u notice the part before COMMA BUT and after COMMA BUT....both are Independent Clauses. or you can say independent statements.

Sub of first clause is NOBODY..just like...you can't ask who is NOBODY...because its the subject and it simply means "nobody in the world" .....similarly the sub of 2nd IC is THOSE....i don't think that THOSE must refer to something in the previous clause...although we get the description of THOSE from the previous clause, "those in the world" so that both the IC doesn't look like EAST AND WEST...they looks logically connected.

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by [email protected] » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:14 am

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Hello Everyone!

Let's tackle this question, one issue at a time, and narrow it down to the right option quickly! To begin, here is the original sentence with any major differences between the options highlighted in orange:

Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly because of the difficulty of distinguishing between a language and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found about five thousand.

(A) and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found
(B) and the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried counting typically finding
(C) and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting it typically find
(D) or the sub-languages or dialects within them, but those who tried to count them typically found
(E) or the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried to count typically finding

After a quick glance over the options, there are a few major differences we can focus on:

1. it vs. them (pronoun agreement)
2. to count / counting (verbs or meaning)
3. have found / finding / find / found (verb tense)


Let's start with #1 on our list: it vs. them. No matter which one we choose, it will eliminate 2-3 options right away. To figure out which one we need to use, let's ask ourselves what the pronoun it/them is referring to. So...what are sub-languages and dialects considered "within?"

Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly because of the difficulty of distinguishing between a language and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found about five thousand.

There you go! The pronoun is referring back to the singular word "language!" Now, let's rule out any options that use a plural pronoun instead:

(A) and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found
(B) and the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried counting typically finding
(C) and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting it typically find
(D) or the sub-languages or dialects within them, but those who tried to count them typically found
(E) or the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried to count typically finding

We can rule out options B, D, & E because they use the plural pronoun "them" to refer to a singular noun "language." Pretty easy, right? We just eliminated 3 options really quickly!

Now that we've got this narrowed down to only 2 options, let's tackle #2 & #3 on our list. They both have to do with finding the right verb tenses and creating a clear, concise meaning, so let's read them over and see which one does this better:

(A) and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found

This is CORRECT! It doesn't have any problems with pronoun agreement, the verbs make logical sense, and the meaning is clear!

(C) and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting it typically find

This is INCORRECT because there is an agreement problem with the pronoun "it" that people are trying to count. The pronoun "it" is singular, but it's referring to the plural phrase "sub-languages or dialects."


There you have it - option A was the correct choice all along!


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