Federal incentives now encourage investing capital in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high and no demand for new construction.
(A) investing capital in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high and
(B) capital investment in commercial office buildings, even though vacancy rates in existing structures are exceptionally high and there is
(C) capital to be invested in commercial office buildings even though there are exceptionally high vacancy rates in existing structures with
(D) investing capital in commercial office buildings even though the vacancy rates are exceptionally high in existing structures with
(E) capital investment in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high, and although there is
This question is already discussed, but doesnt answer my question.
OA - B Doesnt it give a run-on sentence at the end [and there is]?
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A,C, D & E are awkward
A. the vacancy rates are high, not the structures
C. structures with no demand for construction-awkward. demand for x is ebtter
D. -ditto-
E. structures that are exceptionally high- incorrectly modifies the structures instead of the rates.
B is not run on: federal incentives encourage x, eventhough vacancy rates are high and there is no demand for y.
A. the vacancy rates are high, not the structures
C. structures with no demand for construction-awkward. demand for x is ebtter
D. -ditto-
E. structures that are exceptionally high- incorrectly modifies the structures instead of the rates.
B is not run on: federal incentives encourage x, eventhough vacancy rates are high and there is no demand for y.
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shouldnt '...are high AND there is....' be '...are high, AND there is....'? Looks like am missing something, pls clarify. Tx.scoobydooby wrote:B is not run on: federal incentives encourage x, eventhough vacancy rates are high and there is no demand for y.
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HI.
I also go for B.
Federal incentives now encourage ..it should be followed by noun. Capital investment is very much clear.
If you look for it you have only 2 choice B and E. In E
capital investment in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high, and although there is
It distort the meaning as vacancy rate is high not structures are very high. so it can be eliminated.
So answer choice is B.
I hope this will help.
I also go for B.
Federal incentives now encourage ..it should be followed by noun. Capital investment is very much clear.
If you look for it you have only 2 choice B and E. In E
capital investment in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high, and although there is
It distort the meaning as vacancy rate is high not structures are very high. so it can be eliminated.
So answer choice is B.
I hope this will help.
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After eliminating other choices I boiled down to B. But B seems questionable as it looks like B gives a run on sentence.Beat-D-GMAT wrote:HI.
I also go for B.
Federal incentives now encourage ..it should be followed by noun. Capital investment is very much clear.
If you look for it you have only 2 choice B and E. In E
capital investment in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high, and although there is
It distort the meaning as vacancy rate is high not structures are very high. so it can be eliminated.
So answer choice is B.
I hope this will help.
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it seems that your issue is that you think there should be a comma in that part. (correct me if i've misinterpreted)crackgmat007 wrote:shouldnt '...are high AND there is....' be '...are high, AND there is....'? Looks like am missing something, pls clarify. Tx.
nope.
in fact, you CAN'T put a comma here, since a comma would create ambiguity, and would in fact suggest the wrong primary interpretation.
let me explain.
the structure of the sentence is "X, even though (Y and Z)".
in other words. "Y" (high vacancy rates) and "Z" (no demand) are BOTH counter to "X".
with NO COMMA between Y and Z, this structure is reinforced.
if you had a comma, you'd have
"X, even though Y, and Z".
this is most likely to be read as
"(X, even though Y), and Z"
in other words, Y runs counter to X, but Z reinforces X. that's not good.
hope this helps (and that it doesn't look too much like an algebra post)
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2 kinds of wrong in this post.kaulnikhil wrote:doesn't C use the proper Idiom encourage X to Y ??
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(1) idioms don't always have just 1 form.
this is a crucial realization: just because form X of some idiom is correct, you CAN'T conclude that form Y of the same idiom is wrong.
you can encourage PERSON to VERB.
you can also encourage ACTIVITY. (you can encourage, say, introspection ... or capital investment)
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choice (c) is idiomatically incorrect, anyway.
if you say "encourage X to Y", then X has to be a PERSON (or maybe an animal).
as in...
i encouraged joe to apply to business school.
unless you are actually giving a pep talk to the capital itself, this wording is incorrect.
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Thanks for the explanation Ron. Can you clarify the below question pls?lunarpower wrote:it seems that your issue is that you think there should be a comma in that part. (correct me if i've misinterpreted)crackgmat007 wrote:shouldnt '...are high AND there is....' be '...are high, AND there is....'? Looks like am missing something, pls clarify. Tx.
nope.
in fact, you CAN'T put a comma here, since a comma would create ambiguity, and would in fact suggest the wrong primary interpretation.
let me explain.
the structure of the sentence is "X, even though (Y and Z)".
in other words. "Y" (high vacancy rates) and "Z" (no demand) are BOTH counter to "X".
with NO COMMA between Y and Z, this structure is reinforced.
if you had a comma, you'd have
"X, even though Y, and Z".
this is most likely to be read as
"(X, even though Y), and Z"
in other words, Y runs counter to X, but Z reinforces X. that's not good.
hope this helps (and that it doesn't look too much like an algebra post)
If I see a clause after 'and', I check whether comma is used before 'and' or not. If comma is not used, it creates a run on sentence. Looks like this rule cannot be applied universally. Here 'Z' is 'there is no demand for construction'. Isnt this a clause with a subj (there) and a verb (is)?
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this is not a hard and fast rule.crackgmat007 wrote:If I see a clause after 'and', I check whether comma is used before 'and' or not. If comma is not used, it creates a run on sentence.
if the clauses are short, clearly parallel, and balanced in length, force, and meaning - as are the two latter clauses in this sentence - then you don't need the comma, and the sentence is arguably better off without it.
moreover, as in this sentence, clarity (i.e., lack of ambiguity) may demand that a comma NOT be used.
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also, it appears that you misunderstand what a run-on sentence is.
a run-on sentence consists of two or more clauses that are joined together WITHOUT A CONJUNCTION.
in other words, a run-on sentence lacks either a coordinating conjunction (and, but, yet, etc.) or a subordinating conjunction (while, although, etc.)
this is an example of a run-on sentence:
i'm feeling really sick today, i won't be able to make it.
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Thanks Ron but then got another doubt ..
crackgmat007 wrote:Federal incentives now encourage investing capital in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high and no demand for new construction.
(A) investing capital in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high and
(B) capital investment in commercial office buildings, even though vacancy rates in existing structures are exceptionally high and there is ---what does there refer to ??Doesnt Gmat prefer it using for a place ??
(C) capital to be invested in commercial office buildings even though there are exceptionally high vacancy rates in existing structures with
(D) investing capital in commercial office buildings even though the vacancy rates are exceptionally high in existing structures with
(E) capital investment in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high, and although there is
This question is already discussed, but doesnt answer my question.
OA - B Doesnt it give a run-on sentence at the end [and there is]?
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So two clauses can sometimes be connected with a conjunction without a comma.lunarpower wrote:this is not a hard and fast rule.crackgmat007 wrote:If I see a clause after 'and', I check whether comma is used before 'and' or not. If comma is not used, it creates a run on sentence.
Pls let me know if there is a rule to identify such sentences?
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whoa. if you're not familiar with the idiomatic expression "there is" / "there are", then you should become familiar with it. it's EXTREMELY common; it's used to enumerate the contents of something, or to state that something exists or doesn't exist.kaulnikhil wrote:Thanks Ron but then got another doubt ..crackgmat007 wrote:Federal incentives now encourage investing capital in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high and no demand for new construction.
(A) investing capital in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high and
(B) capital investment in commercial office buildings, even though vacancy rates in existing structures are exceptionally high and there is ---what does there refer to ??Doesnt Gmat prefer it using for a place ??
(C) capital to be invested in commercial office buildings even though there are exceptionally high vacancy rates in existing structures with
(D) investing capital in commercial office buildings even though the vacancy rates are exceptionally high in existing structures with
(E) capital investment in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high, and although there is
This question is already discussed, but doesnt answer my question.
OA - B Doesnt it give a run-on sentence at the end [and there is]?
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there is no hard and fast rule (at least not one with which i'm familiar). however, from what i've seen, this phenomenon occurs mainly in two ways:crackgmat007 wrote:So two clauses can sometimes be connected with a conjunction without a comma.lunarpower wrote:this is not a hard and fast rule.crackgmat007 wrote:If I see a clause after 'and', I check whether comma is used before 'and' or not. If comma is not used, it creates a run on sentence.
Pls let me know if there is a rule to identify such sentences?
(1) clarity demands the removal of the comma (as is the case in the sentence from this thread)
or
(2) the clauses are really short: i ordered steak and she ordered shrimp.
if it's #2, then the sentence will usually also work with the comma, but you should still know that the lack of a comma is a viable alternative. if it's #1 (as in this problem), then you need to remove the comma for the sake of clarity.
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Wow!! I would have treated the above example as ungrammetical. Thanks for clarifying Ron.(2) the clauses are really short: i ordered steak and she ordered shrimp.
So, if two clauses are really long with modifiers etc, we do need a comma. Correct?