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by himu » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:43 pm
The javelin has a sharp point, which is more obviously dangerous than the discus; moreover, the discus is actually more likely to injure bystanders because, especially when wet, it can slip out of the thrower's hand and fly in a random trajectory.

javelin has a sharp point, which is more obviously dangerous than the discus; moreover,

javelin has a sharp point and is obviously more dangerous than the discus; however,

javelin's sharp point is obviously more dangerous than the discus, even though

javelin's sharp point makes it obviously more dangerous than the discus, even though

javelin, with its sharp point, is more obviously dangerous than the discus; however,

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by GMATGuruNY » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:21 am
himu wrote:The javelin has a sharp point, which is more obviously dangerous than the discus; moreover, the discus is actually more likely to injure bystanders because, especially when wet, it can slip out of the thrower's hand and fly in a random trajectory.

javelin has a sharp point, which is more obviously dangerous than the discus; moreover,

javelin has a sharp point and is obviously more dangerous than the discus; however,

javelin's sharp point is obviously more dangerous than the discus, even though

javelin's sharp point makes it obviously more dangerous than the discus, even though

javelin, with its sharp point, is more obviously dangerous than the discus; however,
A, C and D compare the javelin's SHARP POINT to THE DISCUS -- an illogical comparison.
The intention here is to compare the JAVELIN ITSELF to the discus.
Eliminate A, C and D.

B: The javelin is OBVIOUSLY MORE DANGEROUS than the discus.
Meaning: IT IS OBVIOUS that the javelin is MORE DANGEROUS than the discus.
Not the intended meaning: the second portion of the sentence states that THE DISCUS is more likely to cause injury.
Eliminate B.

The correct answer is E.

E: The javelin is MORE OBVIOUSLY DANGEROUS than the discus.
Meaning: Both the javelin and the discus are dangerous, but the javelin -- WITH ITS SHARP POINT -- is dangerous in a MORE OBVIOUS WAY.
This is the intended meaning: even though the discus is more likely to cause injury, the danger posed by the javelin is EASIER TO SEE because of the latter's SHARP POINT.
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by aditya8062 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:11 am
i am sorry but i am not able to understand the difference between "obviously more dangerous" and
"more obviously dangerous"
well i was stuck between B and E and eventually picked E coz i thought that two concepts that have been made parallel in B doesn't need parallelism in actuality
instructors kindly explain the difference between these two bolded portion and plz tell me why the later is more preferable than the former in this case
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by GMATGuruNY » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:34 am
aditya8062 wrote:i am sorry but i am not able to understand the difference between "obviously more dangerous" and
"more obviously dangerous"
well i was stuck between B and E and eventually picked E coz i thought that two concepts that have been made parallel in B doesn't need parallelism in actuality
instructors kindly explain the difference between these two bolded portion and plz tell me why the later is more preferable than the former in this case
thanks and regards
The POSITION of a modifier affects MEANING.
Focus on the position of more.

Answer choice B, simplified:
The javelin is MORE DANGEROUS than the discus.
Here, more modifies DANGEROUS: the conveyed meaning is that the javelin poses MORE DANGER than does the discus.
Now add in obviously:
The javelin is OBVIOUSLY more dangerous than the discus.
Conveyed meaning: it is EASY TO SEE that the javelin is MORE DANGEROUS than the discus.
Not the intended meaning.
In fact, the intended meaning is the OPPOSITE: the non-underlined portion states that DISCUS IS MORE DANGEROUS because it is MORE LIKELY TO INJURE BYSTANDERS.

Intended meaning of the underlined portion:
The javelin is dangerous.
The discus is dangerous.
But the javelin has a sharp point, while the discus is round.
Thus, even though BOTH projectiles are dangerous, it is EASIER TO SEE that the javelin is dangerous, since the javelin has a sharp point.
This is the meaning conveyed by the OA:
The javelin is MORE OBVIOUSLY dangerous.
Here, more modifies OBVIOUSLY: the conveyed meaning is that the danger posed by the javelin is MORE OBVIOUS than the danger posed by the discus.
In other words, both projectiles are dangerous, but the dangerousness of the javelin is EASIER TO SEE.
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by HAmjad » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:02 am
GMATGuruNY wrote:
himu wrote:The javelin has a sharp point, which is more obviously dangerous than the discus; moreover, the discus is actually more likely to injure bystanders because, especially when wet, it can slip out of the thrower's hand and fly in a random trajectory.

javelin has a sharp point, which is more obviously dangerous than the discus; moreover,

javelin has a sharp point and is obviously more dangerous than the discus; however,

javelin's sharp point is obviously more dangerous than the discus, even though

javelin's sharp point makes it obviously more dangerous than the discus, even though

javelin, with its sharp point, is more obviously dangerous than the discus; however,
A, C and D compare the javelin's SHARP POINT to THE DISCUS -- an illogical comparison.
The intention here is to compare the JAVELIN ITSELF to the discus.
Eliminate A, C and D.

B: The javelin is OBVIOUSLY MORE DANGEROUS than the discus.
Meaning: IT IS OBVIOUS that the javelin is MORE DANGEROUS than the discus.
Not the intended meaning: the second portion of the sentence states that THE DISCUS is more likely to cause injury.
Eliminate B.

The correct answer is E.

E: The javelin is MORE OBVIOUSLY DANGEROUS than the discus.
Meaning: Both the javelin and the discus are dangerous, but the javelin -- WITH ITS SHARP POINT -- is dangerous in a MORE OBVIOUS WAY.
This is the intended meaning: even though the discus is more likely to cause injury, the danger posed by the javelin is EASIER TO SEE because of the latter's SHARP POINT.
I fail to understand how option D is comparing Jevalin to Discus. It says :'javelin's sharp point makes it obviously more dangerous than the discus, even though'
'makes it more dangerous than discus'
so isn't the comparison between J and D?
Instructors please explain!

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by GMATGuruNY » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:25 am
HAmjad wrote:I fail to understand how option D is comparing Jevalin to Discus. It says :'javelin's sharp point makes it obviously more dangerous than the discus, even though'
'makes it more dangerous than discus'
so isn't the comparison between J and D?
Instructors please explain!
D: The javelin's sharp point makes it obviously more dangerous than the discus, even though it can slip out of the thrower's hand.

Here, javelin's is an ADJECTIVE serving to describe the SHARP POINT.
What KIND of sharp point?
The JAVELIN'S sharp point.

As a result, it seems to refer to sharp point -- the nearest preceding noun -- conveying the following meaning:
The javelin's sharp point makes the sharp point obviously more dangerous than the discus, even though the sharp point can slip out of the thrower's hand.
It is illogical to compare the SHARP POINT to the DISCUS and nonsensical to say that the SHARP POINT can slip out of the thrower's hand.
Eliminate D.
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